Gurk_MacGuintey said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baathism
The Arab Socialist Baath Party (also spelled Ba'th or Ba'ath; Arabic: حزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي) was founded in 1947 as a radical, secular Arab nationalist political party. It functioned as a pan-Arab party with branches in different Arab countries, but was strongest in Syria and Iraq, coming to power in both countries in 1963. In 1966 the Syrian and Iraqi parties split into two rival organizations. Both Baath parties retained the same name, and maintain parallel structures in the Arab world.
Sounds like it has as much to do with Islam as National Socialism had to do with Christianity.
Iraq has the second largest oil reserve in the world.
Then you're clearly the radical, as Saint Bush has not declared all of Islam the enemy of democracy. We'll gladly let Turkey and Saudi Arabia stick their halal schlongs up our asses so long as they cooperate with USA-Israeli military-industrial complex, won't we?
This is because the European Union, like the Soviet Union, is an ideology-driven establishment. Plenty of Arabs are permitted to settle in Europe, no question. Jews, African blacks, Turks, Arabs, Gypses, make a big deal out of every single little tiny itty bitty thing which might possibly demonstrate preference towards European people within Europe (God forbid), and you act surprised when the EU scrambles to defend them, ignoring the same bullshit that goes on in America, and call them Communist shitkickers? Is it not possible to you that Europe has not developed the same 'political antibodies' as the USA has against foreigners?
The Pope is lambasted by Muslims and you see this as being unique somehow?
And you call me "boy" ?
Your outrage is completely justified here. But you must understand that when a Palestinian pulls a 'made in USA' piece of shrapnel from an Arab Muslim hit by an Israeli artillery round, or when an Iraqi sees panicked American youths plant a shovel next to a farmer who was not planting roadside bombs in order to cover their mistake, and when the United Nations does absolutely nothing but condemn the actions on a piece of paper and does nothing, you can't say that they are doing it out of mere religious hatred.
The issues you bring up can be solved through simple separation. Is it an impossible ideal to herd the radicals with the sanes and let God sort them out? If we don't like the result we can always nuke them, a judgement which nothing on this Earth can escape, a judgement which is greater than God. It's the unfettered globalisation which permits the religious fundamentalist to be in a position to commit its heinous crimes we all express disgust with that you should have issues with.
Gurk, until Israel came about, America and the Western world had no enemies in the Middle East. If America would, for just one second, pull the carpet out from under corrupt, rich Israeli politicians who wish to milk the US cow for all its worth, Israel would have to either submit to the reasonable requests its Arab neighbors seek and not subject its nation to the terror it itself generates for its own military industrial complex, stop its genocidal weapons research , and stop pissing off the billion+ Muslims by spitting in their face while hiding behind an American skirt.
The Palestinians, and now, the Iraqis, have been subjected to the most cruelest of conditions. Do you not have sympathy for these primitive people? You don't have to love them, all you have to accept is the fact that they are not going to take being murdered while the so-called civilized West watches on and blames them for every bombing that goes on in Israel, which they themselves consider to be an act of retribution for the outright ethnic genocide and inhuman disregard for basic civil rights which Israel has carried out since its inception.
I know you'll ignore this post's every single point by point as it would be far too tedious... but try to put yourself in the shoes of Greeks who would be slaughtered in this century solely for the reason that Islam held its spiritual capital in Athens. And we'd have no way to help them through other than lip-service, towards coexistence with the invaders, and the occasional rocket technology we would develop under the watchful eye of a UN which has shown itself subservient towards the interests of only one group of humanity. Why? Because we would be the losers of the great cultural and technoligical race. Are these words having any effect?
BUT BY GOD, those murderous Muslim Arabs would pay, through cancerous boils, or nuclear fire, no matter the cost, no matter the means by which we would acquire the advanced weapons needed to carry out our due. We would see it as a war against our religion, our culture, and our race, as you so illustrated previously in rather covert terms. They occupy Rome, we nuke Mecca, by any means necessary.
Defined to be good Muslims by the Koran? Do you want me to open this book up, and see what defines a good Christian?
What you fail to grasp, my fellow American idiot, is that the world is not a superhero vs. supervillain team, as the purest and core examples of Christianity would have you quaking in your boots compared to what Islam has in mind. What you fail to grasp is that just as Christianity might be the official religion of population of [x] Western nation and does not act as its primary force or motivation, radical Islamic Fundamentalism is not the primary force or motivation.
MAYBE IF WE STOP KILLING THEM, THERE'D BE PEACE. Of course, I don't expect your feeble mind to grasp this, as you are one who advocates the extermination of Islamic peoples, and then bitches about it when they retaliate! ROFL, you truly are a modern-day American!
I will more readily die defending Palestine against an Israeli incursion than I would attacking yet another weak Arab nation for the purpose of spreading 'Justice' to their lands, as it is something the United States is in no position to distribute at this point in time.
And now, for your 'Goddamn piece of paper' recital:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
