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Drug Users Should Die!

Yes. And? I've gotten several speeding tickets. I've never been in a car accident.

Its simplistic. Speeding is harmful, speeding can harm you and others. therefore you should cease to speed.
 
Mentalist said:
Neither am I. I told you the circumstance of what happened to me YEARS ago. There were reasons, if you want to throw it back at me you will fail becuase you are not taking the circumstances into consideration.

I'm not talking about years ago, I'm talking about now. Drugs, to produce that high, that buzz, have to effect your brain. Can you not realize that forcing your brain to overproduce chemicals, using up resources and causing parts of it to die is bad?

Mentalist said:
Not objective to figure out I dont have a habit are we?

You don't get it, do you? "I'm not an alcoholic, I can quit any time!"

Mentalist said:
You're just clueless.

Why do you hate yourself?
 
Mentalist said:
Its simplistic. Speeding is harmful, speeding can harm you and others. therefore you should cease to speed.

No, the act of speeding is itself not harmful. It causes me no physical harm. What it does is increase the chance that I'll get in a car accident.

Using drugs, even if you don't OD, causes harm. You're fucking up your brain.
 
Because Menty is right. You lack the ability to objectively classify anyone based solely on the posts we make here. Between me and you, the person most qualified to tell if we personally are addictied to any substance, would be us individually. Do you even know the last time I used a foreign substance? Which substance it was? Menty may have spelled out some details, but as far as I know, you only know that I have done so in the past. I'm sorry, but you are just at the wrong board to be posting this drug awareness PSA, buddy. :D
 
You don't get it, do you? "I'm not an alcoholic, I can quit any time!"

NO you don't get it. I am not dependant on drugs. If I CHOOSE to take drugs because I want to, not because I NEED to I am not an addict and I do not have a habit.
 
Mentalist said:
NO you don't get it. I am not dependant on drugs. If I CHOOSE to take drugs because I want to, not because I NEED to I am not an addict and I do not have a habit.

Yes, uh-huh, whatver you say, mister.
 
In Literature, we would call this a logical fallacy, or in just plain argumentatives, I'd call it plain old circular reasoning.

Drugs are bad, addictive and alter your brain chemistry.
You use drugs.
You are addicted.
You don't know you are addicted, because drugs are bad, addictive and alter your brain chemistry.
You use drugs.
You are addicted.
You don't know you are addicted because......

See the problem with that line of reasoning?
 
You are barking up the wrong tree. I used to be a drug addict, but I am no longer one, by choice. Menty says he is not either, so you can either accept that at face value, or continue this futile conversation.


Incidentally, my only part in this discourse was to get the thread up to 50 serious replies before the baby trolls take over the board for the evening, so I've done my part for king and country. :D
 
Yes. Certain drugs are harmful when used excessively. Certain drugs can kill, even after only one use. There is a very good reason why drugs are very controversial in society, but what I'm telling you is that a person being aware of all of that is meaningless, if they have even the slightest inkling to try just one illiicit drug. Some have strong senses of morals, ideals, willpower, or whatever you call it, and the idea is abhorrent, some don't, and some don't think the threat is pronounced as others. Some also don't fit into one sterytypical category of a drug user. There are billions of unique people ane unique situations.
 
Oh, sure, I think some drugs should be legalized and that it is ultimately up to the individual person, but that doesn't meant that using drugs is a non-retarded idea.
 
Black Feathers said:
I don't. The chance of getting in a fatal accident is infinitismel compared to the 100% chance of altering your brain's chemistry if you use drugs.

So, you think that speeding only indicates an infintesimal chance of having an accident? Thats total crap to be honest. Not only that you're gambling with other peoples lives, not just your own.

As for you banging on about brain chemistry changes, yes, that happens but it is far from proved that any noticable long term effects occur. As it happens studies have shown that certain improvments in cognitivity can occur. If you take anti-depressants those drugs are actively trying to change your brain chemistry but thats only positive, right?

And all studies taken ONLY see changes in frequent and excessive use. Using once and a while carries NO more risk than just about doing anything else in this world on a saturday night. Not only that, since you have not taken drugs yourself and have done no studies yourself you are less qualified to make judgment on effects than a user or ex user is.

If you want to know about my drug history for the last year which despite being ENTIRELY my buisness I will share it with you:

I have taken four ecstacy pills this year. Which is NOTHING. I have shared four grams of speed with three people over a two day period and have smoked a couple of ounces of weed and a few grams of solid resin. I have drank a lot of alchohol this year and smoked a fair few ciggerettes but have cut down on all quarters. I have had a better and more enjoyable time because of my light use than if I had not used. I am not sorry and I have no lasting effects.

A few years ago I was smoking an ounce of skunk a week drinking 4 cans of strongbow a day and doing about 10 ecstacy pills a month snorting a few grams of cocaine a month and occasionally doing speed, mushrooms, LSD and pure MDMA.

When I went through my "episode" 3 years back I was using even more heavily. With your lack of objectivity you cannot hope to start preaching about drugs to me. All three periods are totally different.

I have nothing against drugs when used sensibly. Many times I have turned down doing drugs because I wasn't in the mood or I simply wanted to do something different. Calling me an addict was laughable btw, you had no evidence whatsoever.

Its my Birthday soon, will I do drugs? No, allmost certainly not. I will not be looking for anything and I don't activley seek anything but weed anyway. IF one of my friends passes me a line to do then I will certainly do it. It will make me feel amazing and the night will be stellar. But its a non-issue either way, it would be nice but its really no big deal either way. And if I do do that line then I am willing to take the non existant risk that anyhting will happen to me because it wont, I understand how my body reacts to things.

I am really not going to bother talking on this subject anymore because I do not need to defend my past actions or my future actions. You should know that I am not a drug addict and your high school teacher views on the subject are not worth the time of day.
 
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