Hamas starts a war. Will they survive?

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There is pretty strong evidence of a LOT of treasonous behavior in the Trump administration regarding the sharing of state secrets, foreign intel and mystery payoffs (2 billion to Jared, anyone?), his cult just doesn't want to see it. I neither know nor care who this Oerdin joker is, but I've seen enough to know I don't need to invest any more energy that direction. Internet clown is gonna clown...
 

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Israel freezes Barclays bank account linked to Hamas fundraising​

A bank account at British bank Barclays linked to fundraising for the Palestinian militant group Hamas has been frozen, Israeli police said.

Hamas launched a surprise attack from Gaza into Israel on Saturday in one of the most serious escalations in the Israel-Palestinian conflict in years.

The Israeli police said in a statement on Tuesday that its cyber unit worked with British police to freeze a Barclays bank account linked to Hamas.

'Depositing donation funds'​

The bank account's details were published by Hamas "for the purpose of depositing donation funds," the statement said.

A spokesperson for Barclays declined to comment on the freezing of the account, or confirm the accuracy of the detail in the police statement.

Israel has also frozen cryptocurrency accounts used to solicit donations for Hamas, the statement said.
 

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Turkey’s Erdogan calls Israeli siege and bombing of Gaza a ‘massacre’​

Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has condemned Israel’s blockade and bombing of the besieged Gaza Strip, calling it a “massacre”.

Speaking to the members of his ruling AK Party in parliament on Wednesday, Erdogan said even war had a “morality” but the flare-up since the weekend had “very severely” violated that.

“Preventing people meeting their most fundamental needs and bombing housing where civilians live – in short, conducting a conflict using every sort of shameful method – is not a war, it’s a massacre,” he said, referring to Israel cutting off electricity and water to Gaza and destroying infrastructure.

“We openly oppose the killing of civilians on Israeli territories. Likewise, we can never accept the massacre of defenceless innocents in Gaza by indiscriminate, constant bombardments,” Erdogan said.

At least 1,055 Palestinians have been killed and thousands wounded in Israeli bombardments on Gaza since Saturday, when the Palestinian armed group Hamas launched an unprecedented raid inside Israel. At least 1,200 Israelis have also been killed and more than 100 taken hostage in the ongoing conflict.

Israel has put Gaza under “total siege” to stop food and fuel from reaching the enclave of 2.3 million people, many poor and dependent on aid. The Gaza administration on Wednesday said electricity went out after the only power station stopped working.

Erdogan said Israel’s repressive policies towards the Palestinians lay at the heart of the conflict. “Israel should not forget that if it acts like an organisation, not as a state, it will eventually come to be seen like one,” he said.
 

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Erdogan criticised Israel’s “disproportionate” attacks on Gaza as “devoid of any ethical foundation”, and called on the world not to “blindly” take one side. Leaving the underlying issue unresolved would lead to new, more violent conflicts, he warned.

“We call on countries in the Americas, Europe, and other regions to take up a position between the parties that is fair, just, and based on humanitarian balances. Everyone should refrain from acts that will wholly punish the Palestinian people, like blocking humanitarian aid,” he said.

Turkey, which has backed Palestinians in the past and hosted members of Hamas, has been working to mend ties with Israel after years of animosity. Unlike the European Union and the United States, Turkey does not consider Hamas a “terrorist” organisation.

Ankara has offered to mediate in the ongoing conflict, with Erdogan and his foreign minister holding calls with regional powers, the US and others. However, Israel’s envoy to Ankara said it was too early to discuss mediation.
 

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Donald Trump Is Partly to Blame for the Situation in Israel​

Saturday's terrorist attacks in Israel by Hamas militants represent the worst crisis between Israelis and Palestinians in more than two decades. But rather than offering constructive policy alternatives, Republican presidential candidates have settled on an intellectually bankrupt strategy of blaming the Biden administration for everything. The finger-pointing is particularly rich given the way that the Trump administration obliterated longstanding American policy in the region, handed a series of pinless policy grenades to President Biden and then took cover.

The inability to broker a final settlement between Israel and Palestine is an American foreign policy failure that spans at least six administrations stretching back to the 1980s. But it was the last two Republican presidents who departed dramatically from the international "land for peace" consensus that was supposed to result in a Palestinian state. Former President George W. Bush, despite occasional rhetoric supporting Palestinian statehood, walked back America's commitment to widely shared interpretations of UN Security Council Resolution 242 by signing off on Israel retaining large settlement blocs in the West Bank, demanding that Palestinians usher in a functioning democracy before peace was possible and then washing his hands of the matter when he didn't like the election results. His world-historically disastrous war of choice in Iraq did more to bolster Iranian authoritarians than any other single event since the country's revolution in 1979.

But it was former President Donald Trump who did far more catastrophic damage. Trump greenlit the needlessly provocative move of the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, part of which is located in territory the United Nations considered unlawfully occupied by Israel since the 1967 war. The move abandoned another longstanding American negotiating position—that Jerusalem would ultimately be a shared capital between two national people.

Warned that moving the embassy would result in blowback down the line, the Trump administration and its allies mostly gloated about how clever they were. When Palestine did not immediately erupt into chaos, they concluded that the maneuver would have no repercussions. Not only that, but Trump then recognized the permanent Israeli annexation of the occupied Golan Heights and invalidated a 1978 State Department ruling that Israeli settlements in the West Bank were unlawful.

Instead, the Trump administration gave the Israeli government carte blanche not only to expand existing settlements but to grant even isolated encampments anywhere in the West Bank legitimacy and sovereignty. The Trump administration's subservience to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his maximalist government was so complete that polling suggested Israel would have given the former president his largest margin over Biden if it were a U.S. state.

To make matters worse, the Trump team followed through on its promise to torch the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, better known as the Iran Deal. Not even the Trump officials responsible for this gratuitous act of diplomatic sabotage could identify any reason for it, other than that they wanted to. The move not only led predictably to the resumption of Iranian nuclear activities but also to the election of an ultra-hardline government in Tehran that redoubled its destructive meddling in regional affairs, including providing cash, training and weapons to Hamas militants.

The Biden administration did little to reverse any of these Trump disasters, even picking up the baton of helping Israel conclude separate peace agreements with Arab states rather than encouraging a resumption of talks with Palestinians. Biden has refused to follow through on reopening the consulate in Jerusalem for Palestinians. And ultimately, the administration's severe political risk aversion has insulated it neither from disingenuous Republican attacks nor Palestinian frustration with the status quo.

Nevertheless, claiming that the president is responsible for the horrific Hamas attacks inside of Israel is preposterous, like poking a hornet's nest, running away and then blaming the sucker who comes along next and gets stung. The Trump administration did everything it possibly could to encourage and legitimize Palestinian violence against Israelis, and Republicans have little standing to point fingers at Biden for it. Worse still are false and disgusting charges by charlatans like Vivek Ramaswamy and Trump himself that the Biden administration "funded Hamas," a zombie lie that will surely be repeated thousands of times between now and next November no matter how many articles are publishing debunking it.

Biden must not allow this tragedy to suck the United States back into its previous, heavy-handed military posture in the region, or to encourage Israeli military strikes on Iranian nuclear installations in retaliation for Tehran's role in the attacks. The administration should instead use this terrible moment as an opportunity to advance a new vision of peace between Israelis and Palestinians, one that doesn't rely on what are by now dead-letter proposals for statehood that lack anything approaching majority support in Israel or Palestine.
 

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Kefka

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International Jewry started this war when it declared a campaign of extermination against the Arab inhabitants of what is called Palestine. This week, the Palestinians kicked the teeth of international Jewry in and sent it reeling. As a White Nationalist who has seen Europe and the USA deliberately destroyed by Jewish Supremacists, I can only cheer and think, that, by the grace of a God I do not totally believe in, there is still some justice in this world.

Allahu Akbar! Death to Israel!
 

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International Jewry started this war when it declared a campaign of extermination against the Arab inhabitants of what is called Palestine. This week, the Palestinians kicked the teeth of international Jewry in and sent it reeling. As a White Nationalist who has seen Europe and the USA deliberately destroyed by Jewish Supremacists, I can only cheer and think, that, by the grace of a God I do not totally believe in, there is still some justice in this world.

Allahu Akbar! Death to Israel!

Maybe you should stick to sucking tile grout dildos (after sticking them deeply up your ass) and mailing death threats to people at random.

That's about all your good for.

Fuck you.
 

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US pressing for safe passage of civilians out of Gaza, including Americans​

As Israel gears up for a possible ground invasion of Gaza following the devastating terror attacks by Hamas, the U.S. is pushing for a safe passage for civilians to flee.

The Biden administration is in active discussions about the issue with Israel and Egypt, White House spokesperson John Kirby said on Wednesday, though no breakthrough has been reached on a humanitarian corridor or other action.

The Rafah border crossing from southern Gaza into Egypt, the only route out, has been closed.

"Civilians are not to blame for what Hamas has done," Kirby said. "They didn't do anything wrong, and we continue to support safe passage."

Kirby added, "Civilians are protected under the laws of armed conflict, and they should be given every opportunity to avoid the fighting."

Secretary of State Antony Blinken, leaving Washington for Israel to show support, said the issue of safe passage is "complicated."

"But we want to make sure to the best of our ability, and I know that Israel to the best of its ability, that civilians are not harmed," he said on the tarmac in Washington. "But Israel has to take steps to defend itself."

As the violent conflict stretched into its fifth day, at least 1,200 people have been killed in Israel and 2,900 injured. In Gaza, 1,100 people have died and 5,184 are injured.

The ground offensive Israel could launch is expected to result in an increase of casualties on both sides.
 

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Yale professor ripped for 'vile' comments about Hamas attacks against Israel: 'Settlers are not civilians'​

A Yale professor is facing intense backlash on social media after she made several remarks that appeared to downplay the murder of Israeli civilians by Hamas and paint the Jewish state as an oppressive regime.

On Saturday, journalist Rachel Shabi tweeted, "Civilians are civilians are civilians, doesn't matter where," appearing to condemn the Hamas terrorist attack on Israeli men, women and children in their homes.

"Settlers are not civilians. This is not hard," historical anthropologist and documentary filmmaker Zareena Grewal responded.

Grewal, who works as an associate professor of American studies, ethnicity, race, migration and religious studies at Yale University, previously published a book focusing on transnational Muslim networks that link U.S. mosques to Islamic movements in the post-colonial Middle East. She also created a film that examines the radicalization of Islam and the history of discrimination faced by Muslims before the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Her tweet about Israeli civilians was met with outrage after Hamas launched the biggest attack on Israel in years, leaving at least 1,200 Israelis dead as of October 11.

"The tweet below is from a professor at Yale and the context is babies being beheaded," The Atlantic writer Thomas Chatterton Williams wrote in response to Grewal's tweet. "Think about what happened to Erika Cristakis and @NAChristakis at Yale for simply suggesting college students should be able to reason through their own *Halloween costume* choices."

Several users, including writer Noah Smith, called Grewal's tweet "vile."

"Yale professor proves it isn't hard to be evil," The Babylon Bee owner and CEO Seth Dillon wrote.

"She does say she's a 'radical Muslim,'" The Free Press writer Rupa Subramanya chimed in, referencing the professor's X bio.

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis' rapid response director Christina Pushaw noted that Grewal is a contributor to the Washington Post, among other media outlets.

Grewal is also a contributor to the Huffington Post and The Islamic Monthly and has received several awards for her writing and research from the Fulbright, Wenner Gren and Luce Foundations.

Grewal continued to post about the Israel-Hamas war.

On October 10, a Change.org petition was started to "remove" Grewal from the Yale faculty for "promoting lies and violence."

The petition stemmed from several tweets and retweeted posts from Grewal's account.

"My heart is in my throat. Prayers for Palestinians. Israeli [sic] is a murderous, genocidal settler state and Palestinians have every right to resist through armed struggle, solidarity. #FreePalestine," she tweeted on October 7.

The following day, Grewal retweeted a news video detailing the initial Hamas terrorist attack alongside the caption, "It's been such an extraordinary day!"

On October 10, Grewal reacted to an X post from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with the words, "No government on earth is as genocidal as this settler colonial state."

"There is no question who the oppressors are who the oppressed are," she said in a follow-up tweet, "And somehow people are confused about this. White supremacy never stops being shocking to me."

She also retweeted a claim that Israel has a "mad bloodlust" and posts that implied Israel supporters "woulda been posting 'I stand with slave owners' during rebellions."

The petition to remove Grewal has already garnered over 16,000 signatures.

By Wednesday night the professor had made her X account private.

Grewal and Yale University did not return Fox News Digital's request for comment.
 

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Wonder how long Grewal has at Yale?
 

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No Ground War in Gaza; Air War Only. No More Israeli Funerals​

ODI'IN, Israel—I listen to these retired Israeli generals on the news shouting, "This is war!" and how we've got to "destroy Hamas for good!" and "plant the flag on the ruins over there," and I think—Israel has gone crazy. Which, after what happened, is understandable for ordinary people, but not for experienced, influential military and political figures, the people responsible for leading Israel out of this nightmare instead of stretching it out and making it worse yet, which these days seems not just possible but almost inevitable.

We're getting ready for a ground invasion of Gaza. Every Israeli is expected to understand that you can't win a war strictly from the air, you have to send in ground troops. In Gaza, those troops have to go down into those underground tunnels where God knows how many Hamas killers, armed to the teeth, are waiting. Only then, when we've wiped them all out, will we win, and will Hamas be destroyed for good.

How many times has Israel sent in masses of ground troops against Hamas since it got out of Gaza in 2005? How many times did Israel attack Hamas on the ground in the decades before, when the Israeli army was stationed inside the Strip full-time? How many Israeli soldiers got killed in those "operations"? Did all that destroy Hamas even temporarily, let alone for good?

In the 2006 Second Lebanon War, destroying Hezbollah for good and forcing them to give back the two Israeli soldiers they abducted at the start were the Olmert government's declared war aims. About 100 Israeli ground troops were killed and 1,200 wounded in that war—and in the end the government had to trade prisoners to get back the bodies of the two soldiers, and Hezbollah, unfortunately, is still here too.

The Israel Air Force is now bombing the holy hell out of Gaza. As of this writing, the Palestinians count 950 dead and 5,000 wounded. We're killing at least some Hamas maniacs, wrecking at least some of their infrastructure, but mainly we're taking revenge on Hamas' country—which we're entitled to do, and showing Hamas' home front that there is a terrific price to pay when their leaders order an attack on Israel like the one on Saturday. Maybe it will have the effect of deterring Hamas from trying something like this again, at least for a long while. The battering Israel gave the Lebanese home front in 2006 after Hezbollah killed 10 Israeli soldiers very clearly had that effect on Hamas' ally to the north.

As far as I'm concerned, let the Air Force go on bombing Gaza for a few more days. Let another thousand or so Palestinian civilians be killed. I never would have dreamed of saying anything like that in the past, but there has never been an anti-Israeli terror attack in the same galaxy as the one on Saturday. I want revenge too, and I want to restore some deterrence.

Above all, though, I don't want any more Israelis to get killed. And lots of them will get killed in a ground war in Gaza. Also, many more will be killed if Hezbollah enters the war, which is another reason to end it quickly. One more reason is so we can exchange prisoners and get the 150 hostages back, which Hamas refuses to discuss while the war goes on. Yet another reason to end it in days is that there has to be some reasonable limit on revenge.

In the meantime, no Israeli soldiers are being killed in the air war, because Hamas can't shoot their jets out of the sky, and Hezbollah has not unleashed its 150,000 rockets and missiles at us. What would be so bad, so harmful, about continuing the air war for a few more days only, and freezing the Israeli death toll from this satanic event—which at this writing has surpassed 1,200—for good?
 

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Israel Ups Ante, Vows to Wipe Hamas ‘Off Face of the Earth’​

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, hours after forming an emergency government and wartime cabinet, foreshadowed a major ground attack on Gaza by promising to destroy Hamas.

“Every Hamas terrorist is a dead man,” Netanyahu said at a late-night briefing, flanked by Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Benny Gantz, the leader of an opposition party.

Five days after the Palestinian military group carried out the deadliest assault on Israel in half a century, both sides are bracing for a bloody confrontation with Israeli troops amassing by the Gaza border. The fate of scores of hostages snatched by Hamas over the weekend hangs in the balance.

Israel Forms Emergency Government for War Against Hamas

“There is a time for war and time for peace,” Gantz said. “Now is time for war.”

Gallant, using the strongest language of the three, said “we will wipe them off the face of the Earth.”

Their tone signaled Israel may be entering final preparations for what officials believe could be an invasion of the narrow strip of land, wedged between Israel and Egypt, that has been under Hamas control.

Israel Mourns ‘Another Level of Cruelty’ as Gazans Await Attack

The comments suggest the coming offensive would surpass events in 2014, when Israeli forces invaded and more than 2,000 Gazans were killed.

Officials say the stakes are far different this time given the unprecedented scale of the Hamas attack that killed at least 1,200 Israelis. Retaliatory strikes on Gaza have left more than 1,000 Palestinians dead.

For more on the Israel-Hamas war, click here.

Hamas, which is designated a terrorist group by the US and the European Union, is holding an unknown number of Israelis hostages.

The latest rhetoric suggests Israel probably isn’t waiting to secure their safety before going in — despite Hamas’s threats to start killing hostages.

“This is not time for difficult questions,” Gantz said. “This is the time for overwhelming answers on the battlefield.”

Israel Defense Forces are prioritizing strikes on Hamas commanders and officials as well as its intelligence and financial infrastructure within the Gaza Strip, spokesman Jonathan Conricus said in a video briefing on the X social media platform.
 
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