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HeroicFool Indefinitely Suspended...

post # 201 biatches!!

EI staff should suck it up and admit they read the TK

EI staff should be humble enough to correct their egregious and ill-advised mistake

EI staff should email HF to ask him why he tried to register Duncan and find out if HF's original account was fubared due to his not being able to remember his password nor the password to the hotmail-disabled email address associated with the EI account.

EI staff should show due diligence worthy of a site staff which is to be held more accountable than some random regular member account.
 
Mary Rose said:
In any case, when the permabans were first voted in my fiance and I were going WTF? Posting porn and trying to hack and harm the board is one thing. That should be a perma offense and we had no issue with that.

But one of the founding notions of EI was to not be another SS. In other words no permas. But they were voted in. Fine.

And the fact that we have security measures worthy of a finanical site or military site makes us both laugh. WTF? We're a sci fi message board. There is no sensitive state secrets or financial info that needs to be jealously guarded.

The permabans were pushed through by a hysterical membership. Otherwise known as 'railroading'.

And people, yes, I'm talking to you EI lurkers, the only proof needed that this is REALLY HF is that he's saying he's not going to go to the admins. Read the Slipstream archives, you screwed up idiots. It's not that hard.

Oh, and as for giving him the benefit of the doubt? When exactly did you start giving him the benefit of the doubt? If it's when he came back you WERE looking for an excuse to ban him.
 
G847575 said:
It's a hoop jump after looking at the fact that the system we have here suggests ways to send email to the staff. In that same message one can send the information about a new address so the mail does not get lost.

Huh? So anyone can just register a hotmail account, explain that they lost their password and that they no longer have access to their old e-mail... and the staff does what? Hands the whole shooting match over right then and there?

Fuck me, I think I lost the password to G3484579...
Going to register a new e-mail addy now...

Instead we have the 'innocent' person creating a dual to contact that staff.

Assmaster, read my posts or shut the fuck up...

It was never my intention to contact the staff with or without the supposed "dual"

And we are suppose to do the contacting?

Who is this we referring to, you got a turd in your pocket?

Oh, the staff... They banned me why shouldn't they contact me as well? Since the ban button was obviously much easier to push than the PM button, I say their fuckup is on THEM, not I.

HF has been asked to contact the staff via email. He has been advised again and again ways to make this contact happen. Why are we suppose to do everything while he does nothing?

LOL, I do more damned work for the sheeple of EI than you've ever thought to do G485793. The thing is that sheeple generally don't appreciate that work. I leave that to the thinking people. ;)

~kisses~
 
Chakotaya said:
Yeah. If I was to turn up here one day and find my account blocked, I'd just email the admin and say 'Hey, what's up?'

Uh good for you... Now what does that have to do with the size of your ass?

You are not ME. Thank whatever deity you profess belief in for that!!!

It's not down to the staff to work out what's going on, but to act on evidence.

What evidence was that? the masses of porn spam or the endless spamming that I did with my countless alts?

The evidence they had was only that I registered an account with MY OWN information. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that I'd have to be one dumb motherfucker to not hide my IP address or use a name beside my REAL name on the e-mail address.

I knew I smoked too much fucking pot back in the day...

And I wouldn't believe anything posted anywhere else about EI business. Message boards do not have built in truth filters.

That would include EI...

Some of the biggest whoppers have been told there let me tell ya...

If you don't know me then your opinion on my truthfullness amounts to less than a handfull of shit to me and everyone else.

The fact is that quite a few of the staff DOES know me.
 
HeroicFool said:
Awww stop it guys, I'm getting all teary eyed. ;)

It's just about time you guys joined the party. It's been a bore without ya. :D

OK, a quick general post here... I will answer each individually when I have the time... Still working here.

LoP please answer what I deem to be two simple questions...

1) Why not inform me of the problem and let me explain BEFORE I was banned?

Did you think I'd run amok and trash the place with much kicking and screaming and so on and so forth? I have TK manners and I have EI manners. I could have discussed this much more calmly and rationally over there at EI or even in PM's and e-mails if you had preferred.

2) Why is it that it is necessary to e-mail anyone at this point?

The story is out in full. I have no desire to bullshit you or anyone else and I think you and some others in the staff believe my version of events to be accurate.

So what's the problem?

If all that is true, then why does an e-mail HAVE to be sent in order for me to be re-instated or even punished for my "offense"?

Just get on with it already.

The ONLY reason I can think of that an e-mail might be necessary now is to humble myself.

I can't have that. :P


Uh, yeah...
 
Orpheus said:
I feel a bit uncomfortable discussing a member's access patterns when he himself not raised the issue with us,

Horse shit. I have raised and re-raised it with you, just not in YOUR chosen medium.

but it appears that several members are becoming concerned, based on a misleading impression, and the staff feels that by remaining silent, we are assenting to a falsehood that defames our due diligence or intentions.

Your due diligence has now turned to outright lies, demonstration of said lies to follow...

I feel I can provide enough information, without unduly violating HF's privacy, to indicate to HeroicFool, whoever made the post at TK,

One and the same nimrod. If you won't believe me then believe the friends that I have on your staff. You are being deliberately obtuse to return to a slogan I used so long ago on the slipstream... Intentionally ignoring what is directly in front of you. You are only doing this in order to force me to YOUR will. Fuck off and die.

and concerned Ex Islers that this can be resolved through facts at hand, which I feel should be good news at all

Er... to all maybe? This might resolve things for the feebleminded among the EI members, but then you already have those ass kissers firmly in your camp anyway.

Short form: as covered in my original report to the staff, there was NO indication of an attempt to log into the HeroicFool account in May or June, prior to the Duncan application. Only after.

That is an outright lie. No getting around it. I tried several times to login Heroicfool the VERY first time I went to Ex Isle. And no, that was NOT before I started posting again here at TK. TK was my first stop on the net and Cait caught me within minutes of my return.

Based on his ISP and method of access, I also checked a range of well over 100,000 IPs that were even *close* to his pattern of IP usage in the 100+ posts he made since his return.

Well.. That sure narrows it down doesn't it... Anything even close must be me. Fucktard.

Due to the nature of his access, Our server has rarely ever had a hit from those IPs.

Indeed, no one has ever used a cell connection before or after I have. All those fucking cards and modem phones that the various cell phone providers sell sit gathering dust on the shelves, except for the ONE I bought. Orpheus is planting all this sort of traffic at my doorstep apparently... How empirical and stuff.

There was exactly *one* visit in May/June prior to the attempt to register Duncan -- the result of a Google search at 15:34:35 EDT, June 11 on an unrelated topic which is not relevant there. The logs say he "left" (either closed that window or jumped directly to a bookmarked/typed URL) without clicking any link or doing anything else on EI during that visit, so I cannot definitively say that that one single page visit was HF, though the circumstantial evidence is strongly suggestive.

Also utterly impossible. I did not own this computer or the cell connection that I do now at that point. I bought this laptop computer less than a week before I re-entered cyberspace. That week was spent getting my new modem capable cell phone and getting them properly configured. If you want copies of the receipt, I'm sure it can be arranged... Before that I had NO computer at all. None. Not for two years.

It would certainly explain what reminded him of "forgotten" Ex Isle, as he is alleged to have stated.

WTF does that even mean? Do you have anything approaching a point here?

On the next access, and all subsequent sessions, he performed at least one action (e.g. a linkclick), which was enough for the server to definitively tie the accesses to HF/"Duncan".

I find this highly doubtfull since I come in from a different cell tower every day. That changes the IP quite alot, especially when those cell towers are hundreds of miles apart. I drive a truck remember asshole? I cover 5 or 600 miles a day on a good day. So the range he is searching for must be quite large indeed.

In that next session (beginning 23:31:59 EDT, June 19), he arrived at the front page as a guest, spent 1 min 18 sec reading it, then performed a search (completely unrelated to his own account), and then clicked the link to begin the process of registering Duncan at 23:34:16.

Indeed? So that search took from 23:32:17 until 23:34:16? Two minutes give or take a second. Hmm... Slow shit you have there Orph. It doesn't take that long to search Caitriona to see what she's been up to over there recently. Whether your due diligence shows it or not I had no intention of trying to view threads as a guest. I absolutely abhorr your white color scheme and I tried to log on almost immediately upon being blinded by that ugly shit. The storm theme is slightly better, but it's still no SS. You are now deliberately misleading people or you are incompetent. I doubt it's the latter. BTW on that date I was in Lodi California, for future reference... The good thing about being a truck driver is that I keep better records than even your little snoop programs Orph. ;)

He did not first attempt to log into his account,

Patently untrue.

but the topics of the search he performed just before registering as Duncan and other searches he conducted over the next few days, suggest a motive for his not wanting to use the HeroicFool account.

I searched posts by and about myself, Cait, and Pippa aka Lady Midnight, aka Arwen. What was my motive asshole? You're the fucking mind reader.. please TELL ME. One of them was to find out what went down after the SSU debacle. That's where I found that nifty G8767 quote for my signature BTW...

However, information he gained in a later search would have voided this motive, and it may be more than coincidence that he then logged in as "himself".

LOL, you are so talking out of your ass...

You are assigning motives based on searches that have meaning to only myself. That you think you're that clever or prescient is a prime example of why you should not be in charge of anyone. Tell me... How many times did I try to log in Heroicfool before I finally got the right password? or does that not fit into your little diatribe?

Certain key points in his browsing activity *after* logging in as himself offers data to reinforce this hypothesis.

Oh do tell...

If you have evidence then bare it for ALL or shut the fuck up. Giving us your conclusions based on evidence you can't or won't reveal to the public does not bolster your arguement, instead it builds a foundation on shifting sands. It's already been shown that you're steering this in a direction that your own biases have piloted. You were and are looking for a pre-determined conclusion and you're molding the "facts" garnered from your spy software to bolster your POV, not to objectively find out what was going on.

If this was indeed his motive, it is unfortunate that he did not contact us first, because I, for one, would definitely have sympathized with his concerns, and could easily see the staff accomodating him.

Oh really? How would you have helped me fuckstick?

Would you have asked a few questions that only heroicfool could know the answer to? What questions would those be? Because you see, with a defunct e-mail account attached to my EI account and a forgotten password I could have been ANYONE trying to get access to HF's account. How exactly would you have verifiied it was me? You sure as hell won't accept the mountain of evidence that it's me posting at TK right the fuck now will you?

Suck my balls.

However, the Guidelines (which he browsed) are very clear, in multiple places, that *attempting* to create a dual will not be tolerated; the "Guest" front page says this in bold above the forums, along with instructions; and it is near the top of the Terms of Registration as well.

Don't give a shit. This is a dead horse, stop beating it. I have already acknowledged that I broke your precious rule. Whether I had knowledge of that beforehand is completely irrelevent. I DID IT ASSHOLE!!!!

That does not merit a ban.

As I have said in this thread, and in similar threads in the past, our respect for the privacy of each member --a discretion that protects all of us-- often puts us as a disadvantage in publicly defending our decisions.

You can post the entire log on the front page of EI for all I give a shit, in fact I invite you to do just that. Then maybe we can ALL see the damning evidence you hint at repeatedly. If there is such evidence I can explain it in a realistic manner instead of with a slant that makes me look like I showed up one day after two years and my only thought was to register a dual to TERRORIZE you all with.

Fuck off...

Like I don't have other concerns in my life than thinking about getting my revenge on EI for two years. Dude, you really need some perspective, your paranoia is completely out of control.

We have a substantial body of data which we do not feel at liberty to post publicly.

Once again hinting at evidence that either does not exist or can be adequately explained if it was revealed. Yet you won't reveal it because of MY privacy concerns.

I'll tell you what I WILL e-mail you if you publish that horse shit in its entirety so I can show you for the fuckwit you so obviously are.

The one person with a direct interest in this matter has, unfortunately, not chosen to contact us, and that is the only person with whom we can deal.

Yeah baby, and you WILL deal with me. One way or another.

Since I am informed that HeroicFool was an Admin at Slipstream Underground, he must have some idea of the detailed analysis that can be gleaned from server logs. Therefore, I hope he will feel assured that we would quickly be able to verify any justification, and reinstate his account if warranted.

Utter horse shit too. You can verify or you can manufacture more stories about how you see my mind working on any particular date.

I would like to personally assure him that it would not become a "He said, we said" subjective debate of his credibility, but a simple matter of reviewing logged data. If we have overlooked or misinterpreted anything --not impossible, when analyzing gigabytes of logs-- a few key bits of trivial information from him might resolve the confusion, and he would have my apologies.

That's the first sensible thing you have said.

Now if only you had done that BEFORE unceremoniously banning me from EI we'd actually be communicating directly right now.

Fucking idiot.
 
BTW...

When I was an admin at SSU I never had a reason to snoop on my members in such an intrusive manner. It's called trust and I'd never stoop quite as low as that. I might stop by the logs once in awhile to see where the traffic coming to our site was coming from, but that's about as far as my curiosity went.

You, Orph, are abusing the trust placed in you at EI.

It's none of your fucking business what I searched for and when. Just as you seem to believe it's none of the general membership's business. I don't mind disclosing that information but that's just the kind of open guy that I am.

I have nothing to hide from anyone.

If I did, I might just take real offense at your snooping.
 
Orpheus on roberteggleton's indefinite suspension said:
His suspension is currently indefinite, pending a satisfactory reply or appeal after our emailed notice. Any updates on this matter will be posted in this thread.

Nothing to do with my case of course but ya know...

I never got an e-mailed notice from the board to inform me of my so called "indefinite suspension"

What's up with that?
 
Rhea said:
Thanks, Orph, for taking the time to write the post - and for always trying to protect everyone's privacy.

Dear GOD!!!

He is the one compromising people's privacy!!!

He doesn't deserve to know what I'm searching for any more than the rest of you. If you people had a thread on the supposed invasion of privacy that George Bush meted out to try to prevent terrorism I'm gonna find it and I pray to God Rhea posted in it.

I will bet right now that if she did, she was against it.

Damn, you people are UNbelievable.
 
C'mon Foolie! You remember how Rhea was back in the day. She hasn't changed.

BTW, here's some trivia for ya: with two exceptions, every person on the EI staff is a leftover from SSBBS. Check the join dates for the moderators and admins. There are two that joined long after the slaughter. That should tell you volumes about how you're regarded in the SL. Hell, back then I was a major pothead and you annoyed me!
 
Mmm, pot...

Yeah, the threads about finding ways of banning me have moved from the private rooms to the IM's in deference to the lapdogs I think, but... same ole, same ole...
 
HeroicFool said:
Yeah, the threads about finding ways of banning me have moved from the private rooms to the IM's in deference to the lapdogs I think, but... same ole, same ole...

You really do believe that, don't you?
 
I was a member of the SS, just not as active as some and I didn't know HF all that well. I still don't.

Nice way of lumping all of us together-I have/had nothing against him.
 
Chatty said:
I was a member of the SS, just not as active as some and I didn't know HF all that well. I still don't.

Nice way of lumping all of us together-I have/had nothing against him.


You'd be one of the very few then.

I would also be willing to bet that like G, some of you blame me for the break in of the OQ and the shut down of the SS even though I had nothing to do with either.
 
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