Hey, Rhea!

[Number_6]

From what I gather, many their view that place as a safe haven so when some of the people here went trolling there the pitchforks and torches were bound to come out. I'd have been more surprised if she hadn't reacted that way. That last safe harbor is under attack (from her POV) so the nails were gonna come out.

Explanations are all fine and well, but I fail to see why people should be legislated into behaving in a manner that makes this Natolii person feel safe.

The problems are hers, not DS and company's, despite anything they may have pulled at EI.

And from what I've seen, they have backed off. Doesn't sound like they really did much of anything to her in the first place, save try to register on her board. Big fucking deal. Okay, maybe it is a big fucking deal to her, but it isn't to your average, reasonable person. Call me old-fashioned, but I still think the "average, reasonable person" standard is a good one. If someone I disliked were to keep trying to register on my board, I would consider it an annoyance, but nothing more than that.

She appears to be the one who continues to fuel the fire, most recently by posting in the thread where DS's ban is called into question and reiterating her claims of harrassment. In fact, the only reason I've even bothered to opine on this is because she responded directly to my post in that thread, when she could have just ignored it. Her behavior seemed paradoxical to me, since she was calling attention to herself in order to demand that no more attention be paid her.

But, I've really no desire to get involved in all of this more than I already have. This appears to quickly be turning itself into a non-issue, since the "trolls" have agreed to back off.

 

[RobL]

If every person who ever joined an online community were reasonably healthy and well-balanced, then trolling would be an amusing pastime.

Actually, it is an amusing pastime. If I didn't enjoy fucking with people's heads, then I wouldn't do it. And I'm speaking for the troller, as well as the trollee. I've been on both sides of the fence. If I was so mentally unbalanced that I couldn't stand a little proding, well, then I shouldn't be on the net. Period.

As much as some people are willing to forget, none of this is real. Its just a bunch of stray electrons spread out over telephone wires and silicon. Anyone who sees this as real life needs to flip off the switch, and step outside. And that goes for anyone who goes off the deep end over what's said on these anonymous boards.

But the internet is also a refuge for people who have very real problems in their lives, and when you bait somebody who can't fight back, it's not only cruel, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

No, its target practice. Speaking of target practice........

RobL, I know you were just joking about shooting the fucking computer. But Psyche's a kid, she loves that computer, and it should have been obvious to you that you were upsetting her. But instead of having your fun and moving on, you made a big joke about it in AQG and just kept right on plowing ahead. Do you get my drift here? Picking on people who can't fight back is childish and malicious. Period.

Who the fuck said that I was joking? Have you paid attention to what I've been posting here? I'll even bold it for you: I WANT TO BUY A LAPTOP SO THAT I CAN SHOOT IT. And the more that everyone carrys on about how I've tragically wounded the fragile little heart of Psyche, the more I want to find some way of getting her notebook and shooting it. As a personal "fuck you" to everyone carrying on about it.

Also, if she's so attached to the stupid thing, then why the fuck is she selling it? If I were attached to something like that, no way in hell would I sell it. I'd be the only homeless man in LA with a laptop in storage somewhere, safely tucked between my porn collection, and some of my guns.

I came here to read the threads about EI because it was obvious from Natolii's posts that you had sent her off the deep end and I wanted to know why - I rightly figured that it had to be TK threads that did it. You can call me a fat fucking cow and I'll figure that you just have an extremely limited vocabulary. Calling Natolii one is just not O.K.

Why not? She was a willing participant in the game. Its not my fault that her life is cracking up around her, and she's choosing to blame me, on an anonymous internet BBS, for it.

I haven't registered at her site. I haven't done anything to her personally. I've just engaged her in some verbal judo at EI. If thats enough to send her off the deep end, well, then she shouldn't be online. Period.

I'm amazed that some of you are old enough to have kids, because I would have thought it would have caused you to develop some empathy. Guess the empathy gene is missing for you guys.

No, I feel bad for people. I just don't feel bad for people who make their own problems, then whine about how their bed is all fucked up, when they are the ones who fucked it up in the first place.

I work with special needs kids all day, and if there's one thing that makes me see red, it's people who hurt my kids - either consciously or unconsciously.

You know, it seems as though every asshole's uncle is throwing out there that they work with retards. Big de fucking woo. Do you want a pat on the back or something?

Let me let you in on a secret: I'm a retard kid. Serious. I wasn't completely verbal till I was the ripe old age of four. I also had some very bad speech impedements. However, that didn't stop me from going to college, and getting a fucking Masters degree in Chinese history.

Us little retard kids can stand up for our own. So don't go flying the "I love retards" banner around me. Because when you do, all I see is "bullshit" written across your forehead.

If you've noticed, I finally had my say with G1223 too. I don't think it will do any good, but I tried.

G1984 is a fucktard who's going to be getting his shortly.

You can try to justify your actions by saying you're just goofing around and having fun, but it's not fun anymore when you hurt people.

Anyone that can be hurt from what I say on these boards shouldn't be on them. People that emotionally fragile shouldn't be on them. Period.

I'm sorry that y'all have a hard-on about Rovvie and Slipstream and what happened there. Tough shit. Grow up, get over it, and move on.

Any questions?

Didn't you get the memo? I posted it both here and at EI.

I couldn't care less about what happened to slipstream. The reason why I'm fucking with EI is due to their utter contempt of us, and their picking fights with people using the "fall" of SS as their excuse. You want to play that game? Fine. However, don't use that "get over it" line when its the very thing you can't do yourself.

 

[Pryce]

She gave us a hard time? :wtf?:

Must have missed that.

Here you go CU some info about Rhea and the EI trolls.

http://www.exisle.net/mb/index.php?showtopic=1583&st=0

Rhea post #76
Drew, hon, you can have my account. I asked Lisa to close it and she never has. I sure don't use it, as I have no interest in participating in any board run by Christian or Lisa ever again.

post # 111
That's why I offered to let Drew have my nick. If he doesn't mind masquerading as Rhea, I don't mind having my account permabanned.

Gets interesting at post # 36 when EI members start trolling a new board....Of course you will notice all of G1984 posts are edited out...I woder why?

Drew calls for second campaign to start at TrekBBS at post #55

post # 59 Juris Rovvius
Don't worry Drew.. personally, I'll either fight until you're unbanned or I get banned myself.

post # 74 Juris Rovvius, copies and pastes threads from TrekBBS.....*gasp*

post # 81 Drew discovers he has a dual account at TrekBBS.


And this is my most favorite quote from this thread.

post # 93 HeroicFool

I must admit that I find this thread amusing because it reads exactly like an early Troll Kingdom thread...

~chuckles~

Duals, account sharing and posting on behalf of the banned... oh my...

Nice of Rhea to give her account up, encouraged others to go trolling while she wave her pom-poms. Oh yes those EI trolls did it all and shared the information with everyone, wasn't that nice of them.


Natolii....When someone wants to continue being a victim, they must know when to stop bringing out the flame thrower. She is not emotionally equipped to know when enough is enough. When she didn't get the support from the EI members and staff, she then had to tell her personal life problems to make everyone feel she truely is a victim. Thats part of the victims strategy. If you have no one backing you up, defending you, its hard to be a victim. Really is quite sad and lonely for her.

Everyone here has backed off. Its as good as done.

 

[Friday]

Actually, it is an amusing pastime. If I didn't enjoy fucking with people's heads, then I wouldn't do it. And I'm speaking for the troller, as well as the trollee. I've been on both sides of the fence. If I was so mentally unbalanced that I couldn't stand a little proding, well, then I shouldn't be on the net. Period.

As much as some people are willing to forget, none of this is real. Its just a bunch of stray electrons spread out over telephone wires and silicon. Anyone who sees this as real life needs to flip off the switch, and step outside. And that goes for anyone who goes off the deep end over what's said on these anonymous boards.

I disagree. There is always another human being typing the posts that you read on the screen. Sometimes I think trolls intentionally disregard this fact to ease their own conscience when fucking with someone else's mind. If it ain't real, it don't count. I say bullshit.

No, I feel bad for people.

Except for those people you choose to give a mental mind fuck just for the sport of it.

Let me let you in on a secret: I'm a retard kid. Serious. I wasn't completely verbal till I was the ripe old age of four. I also had some very bad speech impedements. However, that didn't stop me from going to college, and getting a fucking Masters degree in Chinese history.

Us little retard kids can stand up for our own. So don't go flying the "I love retards" banner around me. Because when you do, all I see is "bullshit" written across your forehead.

There are different levels of retardation. Using your own declaration that you have some form of learning disability, it would appear that you are mildly delayed. Meaning that you are at the top of the spectrum, and there are levels below you, ranging from moderate to profound. Profound delays, or retardation, culminate with being completely dependent on others for care. Not every "retard kid" can stand up for themselves. Please don't lump all levels of disability into one category.

 

[RobL]

I disagree. There is always another human being typing the posts that you read on the screen. Sometimes I think trolls intentionally disregard this fact to ease their own conscience when fucking with someone else's mind. If it ain't real, it don't count. I say bullshit.

And if that human being can't fucking handle the pressure of posting at a BBS, then they shouldn't. Nobody is tying them down, and jacking their brains into the net and forcing them to respond. They can simply fip the switch and walk away.

Don't blame me (or us) if they can't face reality, and that lack of ability to socialize with others spreads itself onto the net.

Except for those people you choose to give a mental mind fuck just for the sport of it.

Spoken like a true fuckee.

There are different levels of retardation. Using your own declaration that you have some form of learning disability, it would appear that you are mildly delayed. Meaning that you are at the top of the spectrum, and there are levels below you, ranging from moderate to profound. Profound delays, or retardation, culminate with being completely dependent on others for care. Not every "retard kid" can stand up for themselves. Please don't lump all levels of disability into one category.

Who the fuck said it was mild? The fact that I didn't use it as an excuse to hold myself back? I've seen plenty of tards in my first ten years of life. Most could out-argue the likes of G1984 and Natolii, even some of the ones with Down's Syndrome.

 

[Rhea]

Hey, Rhea... you rock.

::Waves at Morrighan::

 

[Rhea]

Darth, I think the bottom line of Rhea's post was simply that you have vulnerable people online that can't take the kind of abuse being dished out. People online aren't any different than people offline. Some have thicker skins than others. Some have personal crisis they're dealing with as well and ripping them at such times just aint right. People sometimes use the internet as a life line or refuge from the shit they're going through in their real lives. You take that away from them and you're doing real harm, way more than just tweeking them. I thought it was cool that ya did back off of what's her name though.

The laptop thing, yeah, that was more than kinda goofy but people do get attached to their possessions I guess.

Exactly. And now I'm out of here. Nice to see y'all.

 

[Rhea]

And if that human being can't fucking handle the pressure of posting at a BBS, then they shouldn't. Nobody is tying them down, and jacking their brains into the net and forcing them to respond. They can simply fip the switch and walk away.

They shouldn't have to walk away just because you're too immature to find other forms of amusement. And dammit, real harm can be caused by words that to you or me would seem amusing or mild. That fact that you refuse to see that or take responsibility for your own actions just proves you're every bit as immature as I thought you were.

I've said my say and I'm out of here.

 

[Rhea]

Very well said Rhea.

And, as you can see, DarthSikle & Co. did the right thing. They are not a distillation of pure evil as they are made out to be.

What right thing did they do? They didn't shut up till they were permabanned, and Darth is still carrying on through his mouthpiece.

Edited to add: "Scuse the double "I'm out of here" post. Can't get the hang of why I can edit one post but not another.

 

[Friday]

And if that human being can't fucking handle the pressure of posting at a BBS, then they shouldn't. Nobody is tying them down, and jacking their brains into the net and forcing them to respond. They can simply flip the switch and walk away.

This I will concede.

Spoken like a true fuckee.

This I won't address, basically because I have no beef with you, personally.

Who the fuck said it was mild? The fact that I didn't use it as an excuse to hold myself back? I've seen plenty of tards in my first ten years of life. Most could out-argue the likes of G1984 and Natolii, even some of the ones with Down's Syndrome.

Sigh.

Severe and profound retardation entails not having the cognitive abilty to perform those activities of daily life neccesary for survival. If you were any lower than moderate (and that's pushing it, based on my observations of your linguistic abilities), you would not have been able to write your own name, let alone complete a Master's Degree.

Down's Syndrome also is inherent with differing levels of functionality. Cognitive ability can run from the ability to read at some level, and holding down a job, to being totally unaware of one's own environment.

You could not have spent much time in Special Ed classes without observing such a disparaging difference in ability.

 

[YeahSoWhat]

And if that human being can't fucking handle the pressure of posting at a BBS, then they shouldn't. Nobody is tying them down, and jacking their brains into the net and forcing them to respond. They can simply fip the switch and walk away.

The same could be said for you on that issue. No one made anyone from here go over there and start shit, ya'll went there on your own. No one rolled out the "Welcome" mat and said "Come on in and fuck this place up for fun" did they? You guys sought that place out.

Don't blame me (or us) if they can't face reality, and that lack of ability to socialize with others spreads itself onto the net.

Now THAT is really funny! Trolling by it's nature is anti-social behavior and when you go after people simply because you KNOW it's not a fair fight, that's bullying and yet more anti-social behavior (with a healthy dash of low self-esteem to boot). So I don't think I'd look to you for advice on "social skills". Anyone can go "troll" the pre-school sandbox, it doesn't take any talent or skill. The real question is why would someone NEED to? If I'm gonna fuck with someone, I'm gonna pick someone that is at least a challenge. Where was the challenge in going to that forum? You knew the people there couldn't sufficiently defend themselves (not without getting warnings and suspensions in the process). That's like tieing someone's hands behind their back, beating the piss outta them and acting like it was an acomplishment.

Who the fuck said it was mild? The fact that I didn't use it as an excuse to hold myself back? I've seen plenty of tards in my first ten years of life. Most could out-argue the likes of G1984 and Natolii, even some of the ones with Down's Syndrome.

Well clearly it wasn't severe now was it? I've got a profoundly retarded relative (CP) so I've seen THAT end of the spectrum as well and how dare he let a little thing like the IQ of a 6 year old hold him back? These retards should really stop making excuses for their lack of ambition.

Let me let you in on a secret: I'm a retard kid. Serious. I wasn't completely verbal till I was the ripe old age of four. I also had some very bad speech impedements. However, that didn't stop me from going to college, and getting a fucking Masters degree in Chinese history.

Perhaps your time would have been better served getting a Masters in Humanities...

 

[Number_6]

Trolling by it's nature is anti-social behavior

Some "societies" need to be trolled, by their very nature. Not all "anti-social" behavior is evil. I don't think that Winston Smith's anti-social behavior, for example, was ethically incorrect.

 

[Starship Coyote]

"Anti-social" need not always equate to "bad" or "undesirable."

 

[Number_6]

"Anti-social" need not always equate to "bad" or "undesirable."

Exactly. Some societies suck tremendous ass. To be "anti" such societies is actually a positive action.

 

[Friday]

Some "societies" need to be trolled, by their very nature. Not all "anti-social" behavior is evil. I don't think that Winston Smith's anti-social behavior, for example, was ethically incorrect.

Oh, now, see....

What type of society needs to be trolled? What types of anti-social behaviors are not harmful, either to the "society", or the one exhibiting the behavior?

Finally, who determines if a society need to be trolled? Isn't that just a wee bit self important, and morally superior behavior?

Sometimes trolling is an excuse to be anonymous brats.

Rationalization, pure and simple.

Number_6, you know I'd go to the mat for you. But right now you're peddling horse manure.

 

[Number_6]

Oh, now, see....

What type of society needs to be trolled? What types of anti-social behaviors are not harmful, either to the "society", or the one exhibiting the behavior?

Finally, who determines if a society need to be trolled? Isn't that just a wee bit self important, and morally superior behavior?

Sometimes trolling is an excuse to be anonymous brats.

Rationalization, pure and simple.

Number_6, you know I'd go to the mat for you. But right now you're peddling horse manure.

Let's see--what types of societies need to be trolled? Well, for starters, any totalitarian societies. And ExIsle is turning out to be just that.

I'm not a fan of tin-plated dictators on the internet who make it their business to try and control the words and thoughts of others. Too many ExIslers fit this category, both on staff and off. They deserve to have their faces rubbed into just what they are, to see whether or not the self-recognition will result in an acknowledgement of their totalitarian tendencies and a loosening of the rules.

You see, I don't like it when people decide that some ideas cannot be expressed and some words are unutterable. In fact, I find this incredibly dangerous, and so should you. I find it particularly dangerous when people bring these attitudes with them into real life, which it appears several ExIslers have done.

So far from peddling horse manure, what I'm peddling is freedom of expression.

If it takes trolls to reveal a society for what it is, so be it.

You just want everybody to play nice and not make anyone feel uncomfortable. A laudable concept, in the abstract. Unfortunately, people need to be made to feel uncomfortable if any change is going to take place.

 

[Caitriona]

^ OK, that made me hot.

 

[Number_6]

^ OK, that made me hot.

I aims to please.

 

[Enkephalen]

A big brain usually does.

 

[Caitriona]

^ True that..........