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I know it's wrong, but I just can't help it.

Apparently in Sareks world, if you aren't poor now, and don't wish to make yourself poor to 'help the needy' you have never been poor and treat those who make less than you like shit.




I'm not getting it. :huh:

You took lessons from the Bush administration, didn't you?

Expel a lot of hot air in a fashion that no one can understand.
 
No, no. You're making this far more complex than it needs to be. The bottom line is that Sarek despises the sort of people who work at Wal*Mart. If he could, he'd cut them a nice gub'mint check so they could stay at home and he wouldn't have to see them. :cylon:

How did this become about me? Noodle boy was the one that said poor people deserve to be poor because they're to stupid to do anything else.

I don't believe in free government handouts. But I sure as hell don't agree with corporate greed.

Bottom line, you people had your 8 years, 6 of which you controlled the government. And you screwed the pooch. Now everyone is fucked and you guys can do nothing but criticize the people that are trying to fix your mess.
 
You took lessons from the Bush administration, didn't you?

Expel a lot of hot air in a fashion that no one can understand.

Hey, I was just trying to get a grip on what your point was.

If it smells like bullshit... well maybe that should tell you something.
 
Hey, I was just trying to get a grip on what your point was.

If it smells like bullshit... well maybe that should tell you something.

Explain what's bullshit about demanding that corporate America pay it's workers a living wage.

Explain to me why a company should have the right to lay off it's bread an butter workers in bad times and then pay it's executives millions in bonuses.
 
Explain what's bullshit about demanding that corporate America pay it's workers a living wage.

B/c first a living wage is about as bullshit as it comes. What does it mean?

Secondly merely existing doesn't give you the right to demand another person pay you a certain amount. If you can do the bare minimum your whole life, and still have a better than decent life, then what's the motivation to work hard and excel?

Explain to me why a company should have the right to lay off it's bread an butter workers in bad times and then pay it's executives millions in bonuses.

B/C IT'S THEIR FUCKING MONEY. IF THEY WANT TO SPEND IT MORONICALLY FUCK EM! They will pay (and yes I am against corporate welfare, before you even ask!).
 
B/c first a living wage is about as bullshit as it comes. What does it mean?

It means a wage that allows a person to actually MEET their basic needs. Not this bullshit that they claim minimum wage is.

Secondly merely existing doesn't give you the right to demand another person pay you a certain amount. If you can do the bare minimum your whole life, and still have a better than decent life, then what's the motivation to work hard and excel?

Again, there's a big difference between being able to survive and living a decent life.

B/C IT'S THEIR FUCKING MONEY. IF THEY WANT TO SPEND IT MORONICALLY FUCK EM! They will pay (and yes I am against corporate welfare, before you even ask!).

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM, MAKING THEIR PRODUCTS, PACKAGING THEIR PRODUCTS, SHIPPING THEIR PRODUCTS, SUPPORTING THEM AND MAKING THEIR IDEA A REALITY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY FUCKING MONEY!
 
It means a wage that allows a person to actually MEET their basic needs. Not this bullshit that they claim minimum wage is.

What are the basic needs and to what standard must they be met?

And how many hours should be required to meet this? Can people work two jobs, or only the one?



Again, there's a big difference between being able to survive and living a decent life.

Uh what? The poor already have enough to survive in America. You're the one trying to say they need a 'decent life' for doing jack shit.


IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM, MAKING THEIR PRODUCTS, PACKAGING THEIR PRODUCTS, SHIPPING THEIR PRODUCTS, SUPPORTING THEM AND MAKING THEIR IDEA A REALITY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY FUCKING MONEY!

LETS TALK IN ALL CAPS!

PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE STUPID AND MAKE STUPID DECISIONS! WE DON'T NEED TO CRIMINALIZE STUPIDITY!
 
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