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LOST!!!!!!

I sorta forgot about Libby. I remember she had a nice breast...the left one.

This show is so fucking confusing. But, what if, when the show is over, you can go back and watch every ep in order and it all makes sense and shit?
 
I wish I had all the DVDs!
 
I'm thinking about buying them and forcing LG to watch the show and catch up before next season.
 
That sounds like a good idea. Tell her she can see Sawyer with his shirt off almost every week, plus Boone :(
 
It does make sense all the way through. This is one of those shows that benefits from watching it all back to back. We tend to forget things that happened over the years, especially with months between new episodes.

People constantly complain that there are no answers. There are, and they're all laid out in front of you. Sometimes things don't work out the way you thought. Big deal. There are 17 episodes left and I have very little doubt that they'll tie everything together in the end.

Bernard and Rose are Adam and Eve, btw.
 
The funny thing is that a lot of people jokingly suggested that long before this season.
 
I've completely forgotten why the bones were called "Adam and Eve".
 
Good finalle, loved the Jack and Sawyer fight, my guess is it worked, and next season will start on the plane, but they all still have their original memories, then end up going back to Elowise in LA, and find out they have to go back, again.

Julliette and Miles never got touched because Jacob only touched the people that was on the original flight 815.

As for the nuke, you have to understand how a hydrogen bomb works.

An atom bomb is powerfull enough, you can make them pretty big, but if you want to do serious damage you need a hydrogen bomb, which is so hard core it uses an atom bomb as a trigger.

The atom bomb goes off inside the larger casing which is full of hydrogen, now this hydrogen doesnt go up like the hindemburg, the heat of an atom bomb is so intense, the hydrogen undergoes fusion, and turns into helium, it is that fusion that creates the energy of the blast.

The trigger itself doesnt need to be all that powerful, maybe the equivilent to a few thousand tones of TNT, you still wouldnt want to be next to it, but down a big long shaft, the solid walls would provide protection, anyone looking down the shaft would be toast though.
 
I don't think Miles will die just because Jacob didn't touch him. It would be a kind of lame death (and how would they explain it?) Juliet will probably be dead just because she fell all that way then a bomb detonated right in her face (of course they would all be dead but it is tv.) Even if they were jumping to the present day she'd materialise inside rock. So that wouldn't be good.

ANYWAY THERe'S TOO MUCH STUFF TO DISCUSS Aaaaaaaaaaah

Rose and Bernard: could be Adam and Eve, certianly, though Adam and Eve were in the caves and the Losties never found that cabin they built, or Vincent's DOG SKELETON. I think this could be the last we see of them. I hope Vincent time jumps with everyone else though (if they time jump.)

SO JACOB'S ADVERSARY, who is it? Smoke Monster? Because introducing a totally new enemy right at the end of season five would be weird. So I think it's the Smoke Monster, who's been around since even before Jacob was first mentioned. Because remember when Ben called the Smoke Monster earlier this season Locke walked out of the trees. And of course Smoke Monster Alex told Ben to obey Locke. So the Smoke Monster was probably Christian in the cabin (but we did see Jacob in the rocking chair and saying "help me" hmm.) Remember when Hurley saw two people in the cabin? Probably Jacob and the Smoke Monster having a debate or something.

This means Claire was hanging out with the EVIL Smoke Monster Christian and Claire will be a sexy villain next season!

Does Jacob not age? Can he just jump through time and locations at will? Surley he could have avoided Ben stabbing him? That whole scene was like Return of the Jedi with the battle for Vader's soul, only this time, the dark side one.

TWO PLAYERS, ONE DARK, ON LIGHT.

See, they did have it planned all along! Remember Claire's dream in season one where Locke had one black eye and one white? IT MAKES SENSE NOW.

THey still never explained who was shooting on Sawyer, Juliet etc when they were time-jumping in the boat earlier in the season. REMEMBER THAT?

Or taller ghost Walt. But that could have been Smoke Monster (or Jacob). But I thoguht he could only turn into dead people and that was why he needed John did. Or am I thinking of the First Evil?

JACK IS A DICK.

Phil died lol.

WHAT'S IN THE GUITAR CASE?

Is everyone from the Aljira (or whatever) flight a Jacob person or just the ones we saw this week? ARe the rest of them just hanging out on the Hydra eating fruit?

IT'S INTERESTING THAT WIDMORE AND BEN COUDLN'T KILL EACH OTHER IN THE SAME WAY JACOB AND SMOKE MONSTER CAN'T.

DESMOND!?

Jin didn't do much, did he?

Sun and Richard will sleep together.

So is NO ONE else left from 815 but Rose and Bernard? That's harsh.

HOW DOES THE CABIN MOVE? WHY DOES JACOB STAY IN IT SOMETIMES WHEN HE HAD A NICE HOME UNDER THE STATUE?

I bet Ben was involved in the Statue being damaged and that was why they had that bit with Sun.

Jack said "I wouldn't count him out yet" regarding Locke so I think he will be resurrected for real next season and kick some ass. It would suck if he was dead now as his whole life would have been a lie.
 
SOMEONE POST THOUGHTS ON MY THOUGHTS.

And this new thought: Remember Adam and Eve had the black and white stones. Also the bodies were really decayed but even if Bernard and Rose died right now I still don't think they'd be that decayed by 2004 (and if they're both about 60 they could live another 20-30 years, though I suppose you're more likely to die quickly on the island.)

SO I THINK Adam and Eve are actually the original bodies of Jacob and the Smoke Monster and once they died the first time they took new forms, the Monster became a big smoke thing that can turn into humans when they're dead and Jacob took a permanent human form. Maybe.
 
Well according to Lostpedia Adam and Eve were guessed to have died around 40 years ago when they were found, so they're certainly strong candidates.

One argument against it being Jacob and his enemy is that the bodies were male and female, weren't they?
 
I thought it was clear from their style that Jacob and his adversary had significant interaction with the ancient Egyptians. It occured to me to wonder if perhaps Jacob and the adversary are some kind of avatars or embodiments of ancient Egyptian mythology dudes (like Horus and Set/Seth or something).

However I think that'd be too "lame" of an endgame for the LOST writers.
 
Someone on another board reconed the statue was a goddess of fertility, so maybe when that got broken (which Ben looked shifty about) is when people stopped being able to carry chilldren full term on the island.
 
*takes deep breath*

Let's start with the discourse between the mysterious man in black and the white-garbed Jacob at the start. The first thing I noticed was the traditional usage of the black vs white theme (good vs bad, black hat/white hat, hero/villain, etc). They want the viewers to think the man in black is the bad guy. Which, it seems, is true because he wants to kill Jacob. Jacob seems like the peace-loving type with an eastern philosophy.

We're gonna jump ahead to the Locke/Linus/Jacob confrontation at the end. Jacob says, "I see you found your loophole." He was speaking to Locke, who was later-revealed to be very dead. Now, what other thing on the island has imitated dead people on four other occasions (Christian Shepard, Yemi, Emily Linus, and Alex Linus-Rousseau)? It's been my theory that the monster has been doing these imitations, and that it culminated it's little show with imitating John Locke. Need one more piece of evidence? How about the super-hero-like disappearance of Locke right before Ben meets the monster and then sudden reappearance of Locke after Ben's ordeal is over. I can go on. The monster is the man in black from the beginning of the show.

I know what you're going to say, "But Christian Shepard said that he spoke on Jacob's behalf!" Yes, he did. But, we also know from what Ilana said, that the cabin has been used by someone else.

Alright, on to the next point: the loophole.

What exactly is the loophole? Where are these rules? Could they be in one of the items that Richard showed to young Locke: Book of Laws?

Anyway, here's my theory on the loophole. The monster was created by Jacob. We can determine this from the hieroglyphs - depicting Anubis either communing with or creating the monster - under the Temple walls where Ben was "judged". This also assumes Jacob is the Egyptian god of the dead, Anubis... which certainly explains a lot (eg, knowing when people are supposed to die, etc.). Anyway, since he was created by Jacob, he cannot kill him. He has to find someone else who can kill him. Perhaps one of Jacob's own followers or a leader of his followers, who isn't created by Jacob. That person must also do this of their own free will. Hence Jacob saying to Ben "you have a choice". My only problem with this is I feel Ben was extorted into killing Jacob, because he was told by the monster that he would be destroyed if he didn't follow all of Locke's orders.

There are a few other nit-picky things I can go over, like the statue is actually a statue of Taweret, the Egyptian god of fertility (HELLO!). The most important thing I want to discuss is the supposed detonation of a 6 megaton bomb over the electromagnetic pocket on the Swan site. One long Physics lesson short, what Farady had planned to do was generate a Casimir Effect (a wormhole) using the exotic matter within the pocket and the atomic energy of the blast. Which would simultaneously deplete the exotic matter, neutralizing the EM pocket at the Swan site, and shoot our main characters forward (hopefully) in time. The result from the detonation of the Jughead core (which is all kinds of fucked up reality wise, I mean, c'mon! a rock! WTF is that shit!?) would not be an explosion, but an implosion, like what we saw with the failsafe that Desmond activated.

There you have it folks, my very best guess on the happenings of Lost.

GODDAMMIT I HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 9 FUCKING MONTHS TO SEE WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT CUNT CONCLUSION IS GOING TO BE!

... and now a pictorial representation of my emotions following that show knowing there wouldn't be another episode for 9 goddammed months.

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I found it hard to believe that Juliet survived such a long fall, though. But then again, this is Lost I'm talking about...
 
Something occurred to me, right this very second in fact, as I was about to write a different theory.

So they prevented the plane from crashing, so all very good, the plane doesnt crash, the islands location isnt sent out, the freighter never comes, Desmond is still in the hatch, Daniel is still a bit loopy in the head.

But, the plane has to crash for the frieghter to come, for the time traveling to start happening, for them to prevent it.

Soooooooo, they will end up back on the plane, they will have no memory of it, but the plane will crash again, events will start over in a loop, as I suspect they have been doing for a while.

Remember the conversation on the beach something to the effect of "it will happen again, it wont ever end" "it only has to end once"

Also remember how there is a link between Desmond and Daniel, and how Daniel was crying when he saw the plane crash on the tv, but couldnt remember why?

Maybe hes crying because its happened again, and somewhere in the back of his mind he knows its his fault.

Remember how Desmond kept trying to save Charlie, because he knew how he would die?

Maybe its because he can remember from the last loop how Charlie died, and each different death is a partial memory from a different loop.

Even Miles got it, by trying to prevent the anomoly from happening they guaranteed it would, over and over again.

I think only Desmond and Daniel can stop the loop from happening, and to do that, they both need to be alive (and on the island) before Jack drops the bomb down the shaft, so they can prevent it from happening.

Once they stop trying to change the past they can have a future
 
ZOMG, WHAT IF LINDELOF & CUSE HAVE BEEN LYING TO US THIS WHOLE TIME, AND WERE JUST PISSED OFF THAT WE'D FIGURED OUT THE ANSWER, AND IT REALLY IS JUST PURGATORY?!?!?
 
Ha! I forgot all about the purgatory thing.
 
Yeah, as whisky brought up... the paradox.

If the losties remove the EM source that the Swan was built over, they remove the need for Desmond to be taken into the hatch in the first place. He could continue his race around the world. Also, the plane wouldn't crash and everyone would land in LA. And so on, and so on.

Here's the problem with that. Who would go back in time to remove the EM pocket? What happens if the wormhole created by the explosion sucks the surrounding people into it and leaves them unaffected by the time erasure?

Really, the possibilities and theories of the time paradox problem are nearly endless.
 
AND WHERE THE FUCK IS CLAIRE!?!?!?!?1/1/1/onedashonedash
 
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