Motives of a Holocaust Revisionist

[The Harlot]

Where you been?

All over

 

[Blindgroping]

It's not an accusation of anything. It's a statement of fact.

He's asking you to prove that it is a fact.

Trials, pictures, cards, tattoos, endless records. The bodies themselves.

You really don't realize how extensively he's researched this.
Tell him where these items are, and I guarantee he's already seen it and disproved it. Logically.

 

[jack]

:bigass:

 

[Cranky Bastard]

Prove it.

Are you a survivor-denier?

So... if Holocaust deniers have to prove the holocaust didn't happen, then you have to prove all those holocaust survivors don't exist.



Trolling aside, "victims" of the holocaust and survivors now include the children and grandchildren of the supposed holocaust survivors.

Note:

http://www.remember.org/children/children.html

The number of "descendants" is used in these next sites for actual survivor statistics:

http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/people/survivor.htm
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/number-survivors-today.html

A few years ago the number wasn't so big:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/CWN/021304holocaust.aspx

Several more years ago, the number was far larger, meaning it shrunk and then grew again:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/history/holostats.htm

And the number continues to rise:

http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00331/Survivors.htm

 

[The Question]

It's not an accusation of anything. It's a statement of fact.

Until an accusation is proven -- not merely accepted on "judicial notice" -- it remains an accusation only.

Stopped being an accusation after the trials proved what happened.

Show trials, the most glaring miscarriage of which was the application of ex post facto law.

Trials, pictures, cards, tattoos endless records. The bodies themselves.

Where'd they all go?

That's an excellent starting question. Even if every one of the fabled 6 million were reduced to ash, where is all that ash?

Jewish Population of Poland prewar was over 2 million alone. Just 40,000 these days. Prove they emigrated.

Should be feasible, actually. Produce the records from which you derive your numbers, and let's look at those same sources for increases in population of neighborhing countries.

There's evidence to show they didn't.

Fine, produce it.

Take the evidence that shows they didn't, and directly disprove it.

You'll have to present it before I can.

 

[jack]

I already did, those are official Nazi census numbers in the picture thread. Get the Nazi's to disprove their own counts.

 

[jack]

Tabulated and approved. Already part of the public record.

 

[jack]

As I said, those socipaths were meticulous about everything. You prove those records are lies. Put them up, and disprove them. They're the Nazi's own numbers, by their own count.

Jesus, you're almost retarded about this, you're so blind.

 

[The Question]

Tabulated and approved. Already part of the public record.

So have been a great many things later shown to be lies. "Judicial notice", I will remind you once again, is not proof.

 

[The Question]

An old post which deserves an encore, because Jack and Dono seem to have been absent the first time it was posted:

Here, just to really give Sardy some grist for the mill, see what you make of this guy.

Wanna know how he justifies his "professional conclusion" that Earth is being invaded by aliens? Care to hear the evidence he's based this ever-so-scholarly conclusion on?

Well, let's start with this quote:

There is evidence, overwhelming evidence of an ongoing, systematic and clandestine invasion of our species by an unknown intelligence that is possibly a threat to our survival.

Hey, look! "Overwhelming evidence"! Golly Jeepers, does that look familiar to anybody? What kind of "overwhelming evidence", Agent Mulder?

Hmmm. . . what is my proof you ask? Well, let's start with eyewitness testimony. That alone is usually sufficient in any civil or criminal trial to obtain a judgment or verdict. How about a mere thousand witnesses for a start. Let's throw in some expert testimony. I know of at least three researchers who would qualify as experts in the alien abduction phenomenon under the Federal Rules of Evidence. Possibly another half dozen experts, at least, on the "futuristic" performance characteristics of the triangular craft. And what about those "implants?" They would be considered physical evidence and certainly admissible in any hearing or trial. Granted, the importance of which is left to the jury to decide.

Anything to add on the subject of evidence, Senor Crackpot?

There is evidence, in the form of eyewitness reports, photos, videos, artist renditions, and sketches, of triangular craft that exhibit performance capabilities that if ours, suggest another type of threat, but a threat just the same. Deception, secrecy, and a "futuristic" technology are not the tools of a benevolent ruler.

Artist renditions and sketches (!)... oh, my! Well, there can hardly be a shadow of doubt in the minds of Holocaust affirmers, then, that we are -- right at this very moment! -- the victims of an insidious and terrifying alien invasion! After all, the same kind of evidence exists for both. Thousands of eyewitnesses. Documents (such as Majestic 12 and Project: Blue Book), video footage, photographs (all photographs are automatically genuine and untampered-with, mind you!) and, most damning of all, sketches! EVERYBODY GASP IN SHOCK WITH ME!
:scared:

 

[jack]

So have been a great many things later shown to be lies. "Judicial notice", I will remind you once again, is not proof.

It's not "judicial notice" it's the ACTUAL APPROVED CENSUS. All legal and everything.

Deny that

 

[The Question]

It's not "judicial notice" it's the ACTUAL APPROVED CENSUS. All legal and everything.

Deny that

Well, that's easy.

APPROVED

See? Shit, I'll bet you'll start believing in Young-Earth Creationism if they start teaching it in schools, just because then it'll be "approved." :roll:

 

[jack]

See these are facts. You go pfft.

Your pfft doesnt mean shit. 6000000 jews were slaughtered and everyone believes it, just like it's being told.

Your rhetoric won't change a thing. For every one of you, there are 1000 who know what the real truth is.

We'll NEVER forget. And the beauty is, all your rhetoric keeps making us remember!!

So THANKS!!!

 

[The Question]

See these are facts. You go pfft.

Pffft to what's accepted without evidentiary proof. And no, what people accept as evidence does not automatically equate to evidence.

Young-Earth Creationists accept the Bible as evidence for Creationism. That does not mean that it actually is evidence of a damned thing. You accept punch-cards as evidence of a massive extermination campaign, when they are not actually evidence of any such damned thing.

To which I repeat: Pfffft.

6000000 jews were slaughtered and everyone believes it, just like it's being told.

From a pro-Holocaust-story source:

Appeal To Belief

From FallacyFiles:

Argumentum ad Populum, a.k.a. Appeal to Consensus, a.k.a. Bandwagon Fallacy

Another popular one which generates the "Holocaust story as-told must be correct because it has been told longer":

Appeal to Tradition Fallacy.

Now before I'm accused of the Argumentum ad Logicam, I would posit that without the fallacies commonly utilized by Holocaust legend proponents, they would be forced to stand on objectivity and forensic evidence alone.

Further, I will boldly and unapologetically state that they simply can't. Without employing the above three primary fallacies, the Holocaust legend, as commonly accepted, is simply and flatly indefensible. One must cheat reason in order to defend the accepted yarn with a straight face.

Your rhetoric won't change a thing. For every one of you, there are 1000 who know what the real truth is.

You're wrong. Check the official story as it's evolved since 1945 -- revisionists have been surely and steadily stripping away one lie after another from it, like a fat, rotten onion.

We'll NEVER forget. And the beauty is, all your rhetoric keeps making us remember!!

So THANKS!!!

Remembering and reinventing, as it happens. The more Holocaust proponents lie, and the louder they lie, the clearer the lie shows itself.

 

[jack]

Holocaust proponents are shills, bubbaleh. A distraction, like a bright shiny toy for you deniers to play with.

Tell me we still don't remember the 6 million

 

[jack]

The comparison to creationism is about you deniers, goofy

You're considered the fringe in this argument, not the Jews. Deal with that.

 

[The Question]

The comparison to creationism is about you deniers, goofy

You're considered the fringe in this argument, not the Jews. Deal with that.

Jesus, didn't I just lay out a link to the definition of Argumentum ad Populum?

It doesn't matter what skeptics are considered, the objective, measurable truth is what matters.

 

[jack]

Yes, I agree. That's why deniers get jailed They lie.

 

[The Question]

Mm hm. See, now you probably think you're trolling. And you would be if you were about 1/10th as obvious about it.

 

[jack]

Nah, I likes you. I'm just having fun.