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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

The whole part with the Death Star destroying two planets before A Be Hope is retarded as in ANH Tarkin says he wants to test the untested Death Star.

Why would he say that if the Death Star had already blown up two planets?
 
The whole part with the Death Star destroying two planets before A Be Hope is retarded as in ANH Tarkin says he wants to test the untested Death Star.

Why would he say that if the Death Star had already blown up two planets?
 
They covered that. They didn't blow up 2 planets. They did a partial power attack that only destroyed a city-sized area. Might have done more than that, but less than the explosion of the entire planet like Alderan. And that makes the "full potential" line work.

As for Bail Organa making the prequels canon, eh. He doesn't have that big a role in the prequels. Does he have more than a 5 minute cameo in #3? I forget. You can just as easily have Jimmy Smitts play Leia's dad without having to have JarJar and midichlorians and Tattooine hermit robes turn out to be the uniform of the Jedi knights and everything else. But Disney almost certainly has to embrace the prequels and the SE cuts of the original trilogy at least until George Lucas croaks it and they can figure out a way to lawyer themselves out of it.

And maybe they won't. Maybe they will keep the prequels. But George Lucas himself set up the idea that you can go back and change the past. Look at how he increasingly bastardized the first 3 movies with phantom edits.
 
George Lucas being alive or dead wouldn't make a difference since he doesn't own any rights to Star Wars anymore. And also the things Tomtrek said. (I'm already nostalgic for General Grievous.)

The problem I have with the Death Star destroying two cities (well one city and one imperial facility) before A New Hope is that you'd think people would be talking about the destruction of Jeddha in A New Hope. I mean we see that Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba were on Jeddha right before it was destroyed (which was stupid but never mind) so you'd think they'd mention it when they were in the cantina a few days later. "You just watch yourself! I have the death pentalty in 12 systems and I just survived the destruction of Jeddha!" Or that Han Solo would say something like "hey, I'm not messing with the Imperials, they just destroyed a whole city!" And did Obi-Wan feel the destructio of Jeddha in the force like he did when Alderann blew up?
 
Maybe that's why Obi-wan jumped back into action. He felt something, unsure of what it was, decided to find out.

Han had bigger problems at the moment. (Although him hanging out on the same planet as Jabba never made much sense)

As far as Evazan and Ponda they never mentioned Jeddha cause they were assholes, what did they care?

The destruction of the 2 cities was probably knowledge kept secret to the Empire, and only known to the Rebels at the event. It would be even harder to find rebel recruits if you started your recruitment pitch with, "Oh and btw the Empire has a Laser moon now that can blow up planets, and shit. Still wanna join?"

Obviously the official desolution of the Senate at the beginning of New Hope was a result of the successful demonstration of the Death Star.
 
Well Obi-Wan jumped into action because Princess Leia sent him a hologram asking him to. I don't think you can say Jeddha had anything to do with it.

It just seems like it's the kind of thing people would talk about at a bar!

The Rebels knowing about what the Death Star can do before Alderaan is another thing that it feels weird nobody mentioned, actually. Like when Wedge says "look at the size of that thing!" Red Leader should have said "cut the chatter Red 2, I just saw how big it was a week ago and I don't keep going on about it!"

(Not a serious suggestion; would have been a terrible line.)
 
Oh yeah, Obi-wan did jump to action for Leia. But, maybe he still felt the actions on Jeddha. (Maybe he had been feeling the effects of the Empure's genocide for so long he thought it was more of the same.) Until Alderran, of course.

As far as Evazan and Ponda maybe nobody talked to them at the Cantina. They obviously liked to pick fights. Everyone else was there to lay low, find mercenary work, or catch a bounty. (like Greedo, making Han' s presence even MORE baffling)

Maybe they discussed the Death Star offscreen in New Hope, but dudes like Wedge were still surprised when they seen it for themselves. But wasn't Wedge mentioned in passing in Rogue One? Was he at that battle?

If only the writers of these movies cared about the little details as much as the fans.. But, I guess they don't have to, because we're gonna watch them regardless.

I'm still holding out for Darth Vader film that occurs between New Hope, and Empire. Its a perfect set up. Marooned Vader fights his way off a planet. It would be a great flick, Storyline inconsistencies, and all.
 
For what it's worth, they do say in Rogue One that the Empire has covered up the destruction of Jedha City by saying it was an industrial accident. Tarkin didn't want the new super weapon to be revealed until they could do so in the most impactful way possible (by destroying Alderaan).

Wedge wasn't at the battle of Scarif, so Yavin was the first time he saw the Death Star.
 
Ah, but it depends on what kind of deal Disney made with Lucas. Strictly hearsay, but when the deal went down I remember people saying how excited they were that the unbastardized versions of the original trilogy would be coming out and someone said that they couldn't do that because of the way the deal was worded--or that they couldn't de-canonize the prequels. Again, just hearsay, but there you go. Of course if Lucas croaks it whatever contract he had, I'm sure Disney lawyers can find an angle around, based on my limited understanding of contracts. Maybe a cut of profits for any heirs or whatever. Or it could all be BS anyway and Disney could release the unbastardized versions tomorrow if they wanted to. :shrug:
 
Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney. All of it. They own it. It's theirs. George Lucas can do nothing with Star Wars any more - he's said as much.

However, Disney can't release any different versions of Star Wars (or rather they could, but it wouldn't be cost effective) in the near future because Fox still owns the distribution rights for Empire, Jedi and the prequels until 2020, and they own the rights to 'Star Wars' (the film) forever, because Lucasfilm never owned those rights. This is because Star Wars was the only film made with money from Fox, the other five films were paid for entirely out of Lucas' own money.

So while Disney could do other released of those films again, they'd have to negotiate a deal with Fox and give them some of the profits. It's not impossible that they'd do this, but it's a reason why they wouldn't do it right away and instead would just make new films they can sell that they own in their entirety.
 
Dershocka said:
Maybe that's why Obi-wan jumped back into action. He felt something, unsure of what it was, decided to find out.

Han had bigger problems at the moment. (Although him hanging out on the same planet as Jabba never made much sense)

As far as Evazan and Ponda they never mentioned Jeddha cause they were assholes, what did they care?

The destruction of the 2 cities was probably knowledge kept secret to the Empire, and only known to the Rebels at the event. It would be even harder to find rebel recruits if you started your recruitment pitch with, "Oh and btw the Empire has a Laser moon now that can blow up planets, and shit. Still wanna join?"

Obviously the official desolution of the Senate at the beginning of New Hope was a result of the successful demonstration of the Death Star.
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That actually sound fairly reasonable. I still think they would have a hard time taking the two death Star attacks secret much less being able to build a moon sized space station without anyone noticing as it must have taken millions of workers, millions more droids, and a small planet worth of resources.
 
Dershocka said:
Oh yeah, Obi-wan did jump to action for Leia. But, maybe he still felt the actions on Jeddha. (Maybe he had been feeling the effects of the Empure's genocide for so long he thought it was more of the same.) Until Alderran, of course.

As far as Evazan and Ponda maybe nobody talked to them at the Cantina. They obviously liked to pick fights. Everyone else was there to lay low, find mercenary work, or catch a bounty. (like Greedo, making Han' s presence even MORE baffling)

Maybe they discussed the Death Star offscreen in New Hope, but dudes like Wedge were still surprised when they seen it for themselves. But wasn't Wedge mentioned in passing in Rogue One? Was he at that battle?

If only the writers of these movies cared about the little details as much as the fans.. But, I guess they don't have to, because we're gonna watch them regardless.

I'm still holding out for Darth Vader film that occurs between New Hope, and Empire. Its a perfect set up. Marooned Vader fights his way off a planet. It would be a great flick, Storyline inconsistencies, and all.
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I would pay money to see a movie about Vader between episode four and five.
 
Oerdin said:
That actually sound fairly reasonable. I still think they would have a hard time taking the two death Star attacks secret much less being able to build a moon sized space station without anyone noticing as it must have taken millions of workers, millions more droids, and a small planet worth of resources.
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The Death Star was built by Geonosians around Geonosis. The Empire then gassed the entire planet, wiping them out, to keep the Death Star secret.

Oerdin said:
I would pay money to see a movie about Vader between episode four and five.
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Or a comic?
 
OK. I figured out in my head canon how to reconcile Vader going apeshit and butchering everyone himself in "Rogue One" and letting the Stormtroopers do most of the work in "Star Wars." Using The Force probably takes something out of even the healthiest person. And let's face it, Vader is basically the sci fi version of Hillary Clinton. He's floating in a tank in this one. He's got his helmet-off meditation chamber in Empire. He's more hardware than Robocop. So in this one, he's going all out to get the job done. By the time they catch the blockade runner he's ready for a nap so he puts on an act, chokes out the one dude and sends his daughter to her room. They should re-redo the end of Empire, so Vader is so spent from chopping Luke's hand off that he needs a nap for a month.
 
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