CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
Maybe Discovery is actually the name of the prison Burnham is in and Jason Isaacs is the governor.
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Star Trek Discovery
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Eggs Mayonnaise
All In With The Nuts
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
I like it on the whole. All the stuff aboard the Shenzhou was good and in keeping with Trek’s more thoughtful tone. The similarities to the Abrams’ movies really is only skin deep, because the characters in this series actually discuss their options instead of doing something wacky as a reflex.
The concerns I did have were the amount of death and destruction in what’s supposed to be setting out the ethos of the show. I like a pretty space battle as much as the next guy (and I haven’t forgotten how DS9 started), but it was a bit disappointing after the promising opening scenes which talked so much about exploration and wonder.
And I can’t stand Klingons. I’ve never liked them, I’ve never found them interesting and I hate that they have to be such a big part of the show. Every time it went back to reading subtitles about honour and Khaless it was like someone slammed on the brakes. Funny how the more advanced the makeup gets, the less expressive they become.
The concerns I did have were the amount of death and destruction in what’s supposed to be setting out the ethos of the show. I like a pretty space battle as much as the next guy (and I haven’t forgotten how DS9 started), but it was a bit disappointing after the promising opening scenes which talked so much about exploration and wonder.
And I can’t stand Klingons. I’ve never liked them, I’ve never found them interesting and I hate that they have to be such a big part of the show. Every time it went back to reading subtitles about honour and Khaless it was like someone slammed on the brakes. Funny how the more advanced the makeup gets, the less expressive they become.
I've watched both of them now.
I liked all the stuff on the Shenzhou, especially the tall paranoid alien guy. I like that Burnham is a human with Vulcan training. It's interesting to have a human have the battle between logic and emotion for a change. I hope the little robot survived!
The Klingons were terrible. They looked like their faces were plastic. I have been watching lots of DS9 this past year, and I have come to appreciate the Klingons (mostly), these Klingons just don't seem like Klingons. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE HAIR.
I liked all the stuff on the Shenzhou, especially the tall paranoid alien guy. I like that Burnham is a human with Vulcan training. It's interesting to have a human have the battle between logic and emotion for a change. I hope the little robot survived!
The Klingons were terrible. They looked like their faces were plastic. I have been watching lots of DS9 this past year, and I have come to appreciate the Klingons (mostly), these Klingons just don't seem like Klingons. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE HAIR.
SAUSAGEMAN
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I'm really not interested in the journey of a space racist becoming woke
I thought Burnham's character was all over the place. So seven years ago she was so more-Vulcan-than-Vulcan that Sarek had to tell her to lighten the fuck up and behave herself -- and in only seven years, she goes from stone cold Vulcan to weepy, mutinous estrogen monster? Come on.
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
Why is she called Michael, btw. Is that a common women’s name I’m unaware of?
SAUSAGEMAN
Registered User
Names drift from male to androgynous to female all the time. It's not a *common* women's name rn, but there are women with that name, and if you extrapolate 200 years in the future (male->female drift is a lot more common than female->male),
It's a gimmick. It's a "look how progressive we are!" gimmick.
Eggs Mayonnaise
All In With The Nuts
It has been used as a woman's name for a long time.
The actress who played the mother on The Waltons was Michael Learned. The actress who was a regular on both Homicide and ER is Michael Michele.
The actress who played the mother on The Waltons was Michael Learned. The actress who was a regular on both Homicide and ER is Michael Michele.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
Watching Trek chronologically, the Klingons are still great by the end of TNG season three. Kor was one of the best villains on TOS (largely due to John Colicos, granted!) and 'Sins of the Father' was a truly great TNG episode. Ron Moore came up with so much of their culture there and it really was fascinating at first...the problem is that subesquent writers didn't expand on it. They just kept repeating the same thing until the Klingons became the "honour!" caricatures people remember.
SAUSAGEMAN
Registered User
Weird that Discovery is your first Trek series!
Yes, Trek is known for gimmicks. That doesn't make "a woman named Michael" not this one's gimmick, or one of them. Since the only other quasi-original thing they've done is turn the Klingons into mumbling fish-heads, it's actually surprising they managed to come up with it. After all, J.J. Abrams already covered, "making Starfleet ships look like anachronistic ass."
Hopefully, down the memory hole is where it's going.
Colonel Kira's Left Tit
Bearded Belly of Bajor
Well I finally got around to seeing the first two. They kind of sucked.
Ordinarily, that wouldn't be a dealbreaker. But with CBS putting the rest of it behind a paywall, they really needed the "demo" episodes to knock it out of the park. To paraphrase Soval's line from "Prelude To Axanar":
"Regrettably, they failed."