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Star Trek Picard season 2

I like how any goodwill the first two episodes of this season brought has been totally pissed up the wall with multiple episodes of both a lot of stuff happening and yet nothing happening.

I like how as soon as you think the main plot is going to move forward they introduce like 3 different sideplots that go nowhere like another Soong and a daughter I don't care about or Picard in a coma so we can get meaningless backstory or Picard getting arrested so he can do nothing except sit in a room for an entire episode or Picard's ancestor getting cured of depression or Rios getting captured by ICE.

I like how Seven and Raffi's entire character drama is based around a relationship that literally only exists in a audio drama side story because they couldn't be bothered to put it in the main show.

I like how Jurati spent the first season being possessed and killing people and now she's spending the second season getting possessed and killing people (I'm sure she'll get over it again though!!).

I like how two characters have gone to Brent Spiner's character and asked him for help stopping Picard totally separately and independently because I guess he's just the guy you go to for that stuff for some reason.

OH WAIT I don't actually like any of that stuff!!!
 
Still liking it. Not sure what the point is or how to get to a proper end, but it's still 1000x better than the hijinks over on Discovery.

Did you know the ship gained sentience and needed a crying/counseling session like everyone else on that show? That's pretty classic.
 
If Troi were assigned to Discovery -

Burnham: "Welcome aboard Counsellor. I hope your time with us enriches you as it does us. Our pain is our hope."

Troi: "Pardon?"

Burnham: "As the sea of stars lies before us, we look to them in awe. And in turn, reflect inward and see the Universe within us."

Troi: "Okay."

45 minutes later

<Troi insta-transports onto the bridge>

Burnham: "Counsellor?"

Troi: "My resignation from Starfleet, Captain."

Burnham: "May I have a word with you in my privacy chamber?"

Troi: "You have a privacy shield on the bridge? What is wrong with you - WITH ALL OF YOU?!"

<Bridge crew all start crying>
 
Q's new found mortality is not trivial. There was an entire episode dedicated to Q immortality and their race's inability to terminate their existence naturally. So while the temporal horizon grows dark sounds enigmatic, it isn't saying much as to the how of it.

De Lancie penned a novel called I,Q years back. The Supreme Being (Big G, not little g) decided she'd had enough of reality and decided to shut it all down. The Continuum went into a state of ecstasy at - they were having a good ol' shindig at the prospect of the end times. Q wrote a letter of sorts to The One Above All to persuade her it was worth keeping the whole reality thing afloat.

I don't see these guys coming up with anything as interesting. I had assumed at the outset his ailing condition was tied into what was happening with the timeline hijinks, hinting that something much bigger was going on. Now it seems "the divergence" is just another bog standard timeline's-been-altered rehash and Q's impending demise is unrelated.

But I need an explanation. Their immortality is one of their defining features; if you're going to strip it away, explain it.
 
CaptainWacky said:
OH YEAH, another thing I forgot: Soong seemingly gave up on trying to kill Renee after one really lame attempt at running her over. But this week he has easy access to a team of private mercenaries who would probably be real helpful if you were tasked with murdering one woman?
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I think the amount of nonsensical stuff short-circuited my brain and now I don't even try to make sense of it all ('cept for the Q stuff, given he's the only legacy character I give a shit about).
 
I just wanted to share I am pirating the latest episode (episode 9) and it feels like a chore.

I used to have a NuTrek ritual where I'd eat my once-a-week ice cream treat (well, normally once a week, sometimes two - three at the outset!); partner would pick us up one each on the way home at night. While NuTrek has generally been awful, I at least had my ice cream. But about midway through this season, I asked her to stop getting them. I just feel like I'm wasting a treat. :(

Hopes for this episode:
  • Picard's secret trauma is resolved early in the episode and we move on to something interesting.
  • We leave behind 21st LA and get back to the 25th century where there are cool starships and shit early in the episode and move on to something interesting.
  • Picard wakes up, walks to into the bathroom and finds Q in the shower.
 
Don't feel bad. I pirate every episode. Moon Knight and other shows and movies too. My free TV movie apps last night were making it a chore. One didn't have it on there yet. And the other I had to switch to a lower server to watch it. "Doodstream".
 
Pirating since the Enterprise days. There was no other way to watch it at the time. Dial up no less - took days. :D

So anyway that sucked.

I guess I see why some liked it. I think my apathy and disinterest has hit Doctor Who levels (haven't even bothered with the latest specials). You could kill off Picard (again) and Seven, all the new ones, and I'd be unmoved.

It's been a long road, getting from (jokes) ... but I think I might finally have made it to "just don't give a fuck" status. I was always a Trek fan first and foremost, but somehow, these magicians have managed to use their warped talents to completely alienate me.

Thank The Prophets they have no interest in going near DS9.
 
"Hide and Seek" - yes it certainly was. A whole fecking hour of hide and seek. Even in flashbacks. I dozed off twice and had to rewind.

This finale better be incredible, because we've been subjected to some serious placeholder eps lately.
 
Yeah, I'm still giving it a + because the cast is great and it's not boring me to death. It's not the greatest thing to come down the pike (no pun intended), but it's tolerable to me at least. Maybe the final episode will wrap things up nicely (har har har).
 
I feel like this episode is a bit a cheat.

Yes there is good acting from Stewart, but considering how he couldn't save his mum in real life, this seems like a synical exploitation of that moment, with a last minute retcon by someone who had done their homework on the old mum scene from next gen.

I got a little emotional because it's still raw losing my mum, but I reckon people that still have their parents won't feel much of this.

Ten minutes of story stretched to fifty.

Like most of this season.

Also the Borg bad guys just spent most of the time shooting at nothing while green lasers somehow make swooshing noises. We see a handful die and then the entire squad is dead.

Also Picard's dad made them live in a house where skeletons were imbeded into the walls, no wonder his wife went crazy.
 
whisky said:
Yes there is good acting from Stewart, but considering how he couldn't save his mum in real life, this seems like a synical exploitation of that moment, with a last minute retcon by someone who had done their homework on the old mum scene from next gen.
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Agreed. I think if they sincerely wanted to tackle these sensitive issues, they should have done so without dragging them through their usual plug 'n play mystery box and start writing like adults.

Add it to the list, I guess. A bit awkward this one ...
  • Who is the Red Angel? Michael's the Red Angel!
  • What caused The Burn? A crying Kelpian kid!
  • What's behind the Admonition? Giant space robot tentacles!
  • What caused the DMA? A species that, uh, didn't know how to scan for sentient lifeforms!
  • What's behind the door in Picard's childhood memory? His dead Mom swinging from a ro -- owwww. Oh dear.
When they bought up the old lady and the tea I just thought "don't - just don't bother".

Another few nitpicks, not that it matters:

-- Elnor hologram has a mobile emitter attached to his arm when he shimmered into being - huh? Oh, and remembering up to the moment of Elnor's death or some such -- HUH?

-- Seven's borgbrow. She retained that in the Prime timeline due to her ocular implant. She is inhabiting her unaltered Confederation timeline body. Did JuratiQueen dissolve her regular eye in those brief moments and spawn a new ocular implant?

-- The Borg are lonely. The Queen is lonely. It's not ruining them of course - it's DECONSTRUCTION.

And as for Starfleet rejecting Seven. Wow. All good for Picard - the first human known to be assimilated by The Borg to take back the captain's seat on the flagship of The Federation a couple of days after being Locutus. All good for Icheb to make his way through the ranks. But not Seven, whose individual contributions to Voyager saved the ship on more than one occasion. No Voyager, no Endgame - where The Federation's most lethal enemy were dealt a critical blow. Nope, you can fuck off Anika. Sheer fucking hubris thinking you had a place on Earth. And we're to believe the oh-so-principled Kathy threatened to back down, then didn't? Woah. Just before her admiral promotion came through, was it?

Well, there's only one more bite left out of this shit sandwich.

I can't believe after such a strong start I'd be saying this is worse than Discovery. Heavens to frackin' Betsy.
 
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