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SUPERMAN

  • We knew it was coming, but live-action Krypto is still pretty wild. I kinda love it, though... No, not kinda. I love it.
  • How can you not feel something when you hear that theme. Electric guitar? I can take it or leave it, but the THEME
  • Hero shot saving the girl looked awesome
  • Still don't think the suit looks that great (looks kinda foamy), but it's not awful. It did look fine in the previously mentioned shot. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe.
  • Corenswet looks the part. No issues there.
  • I like his nervous, clumsy, tall guy energy as Clark. I can relate. Cavill was a very good Superman, but his Clark was lacking. I'm happy that this seems to be a far more Reeve-inspired performance.
  • Also, while I still think the 'bussin' hairstyle is awful, at least there's the smallest shred of plausible deniability that you wouldn't immediately point at Clark and go, "Hey, that's Superman."
  • Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner is definitely vibes.
  • Hawkgirl!
  • I like that we're not wasting time on origin stories, and we get to jump into this reboot of DC where a lot of the world and superheroes are already established.
  • Nicholas Hoult looks cool as Lex, though he reminded me a bit too much of Agent 47 when he had the gun.
  • Don't love some of the cinematography. Looked a bit too digital in places, which conjures unwelcome memories of The Flash, but I do like the brighter and more vivid tone. While I'm not against the grimdarkish aesthetics of Man of Steel, I do think it's time for a tone shift now. I just didn't love the quality of some of the shots here.
Overall, I'm excited, but not without a few reservations. I am a James Gunn fan, just not of all of his stuff. I feel that, a bit like Taika Waititi, he can be a tad self-indulgent. I also personally didn't think GOTG3 was that great. I liked it, but I was somewhat perplexed by the universal effusive praise. I was left pretty cold by it, but everyone else seemed to love it, so I felt like a bit of an outlier there. I thought the second Suicide Squad was just okay as well. Though, considering what an utter pile of shite the first one was, it was a vast improvement. I did really enjoy Peacemaker, though, and I do have faith he's going to pull this one off. The trailer has left me with more positive fuzzy feelings than negative ones. WE SHALL SEE.

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Mentalist said:

  • We knew it was coming...
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  • Just riffing off of some of your observations with my opinions and observations:
    -Sam Raimi's Spidey costume kind of set the tone for 21st century superhero costumes, where you have to have all kinds of inlaid patterns and textures and embossments. That said, for Superman, it's hard to top the classic suit from my childhood that they did so well for Christopher Reeve. I like the more open neck than what they did for this suit but I don't hate the suit. It's got the symbol on the cape and he's wearing his underpants on the outside like a proper superhero.
    -DC/Warner just never got it about action movies--or superhero movies. The stakes can be high and the protagonist can face horrible things, but there still needs to be some humor to keep it from being a slog. The Nolan Batman trilogy was dark and depressing so they decided a successful superman movie needs to be dark and brooding. No. Arguably a successful Batman movie needs to be dark and brooding because that's the most popular iteration of the Batman character. Superman is literally primary colors. Truth, justice, the American Way. It can have dark and scary themes but ultimately Superman is about hope and optimism. Snyder got the "hope" bit right--but it's just a throwaway line. Nothing about any Snyder movie ever feels hopeful or bright. It's dark and brooding. I think Krypto, while a little kitschy and Silver Age, is an essential tool for Gunn to kind of "hard reset" from the relentlessly gloomy tone of the Snyderverse.
    -What else? Oh. "Superman Returns" and homage to "Superman: The Movie." I like how there's a nod to the 1978 Superman in the titles and the music and the general feel of things without being totally slavish to it. I didn't hate "Superman Returns." And for his faults as a person, Kevin Spacey was an excellent Luthor. But in many ways "...Returns" is way to slavishly derivative of "...The Movie." Same opening theme with slightly upgraded visuals, Real estate scheme Luthor and his femme fatale sidekick. Stealing Kryptonite to defeat Supes. The jetliner rescue. There are probably other similarities but it really isn't a particularly memorable movie. And where it brings new material... Ick. Cuckold stalker Superman and his bastard son. The suit that tries to be true but winds up looking like a gay stripper Superman costume. This movie, from what we've got, feels like it captures the essence of the old Superman while bringing new material and not just copying huge chunks of the old film. I'm excited.
 
Nicholas Hoult will be a great Lex. Never gives a bad performance.

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Seen it a few more times, you hear the kid say superman before the first time you see him, and you hear him a few more times with the other people chanting his name.

Seen a few reaction videos, strangely including a few who don't seem to react at all, which makes me wonder if they understand the concept of a reaction video.

They are more of unreaction videos.
 
OK. Drank too much tonight and binging on react videos. The most brilliant point in the trailer is where they show Superman at his weakest, getting dragged by Krypto and cut to him rescuing the girl from the explosion. Something about that transition just flips the switch to want and love and hope.
 
OK. Another observation: I've been bitching about the next Captain America because it looks like a muddled mess. But we've got Supes, Krypto, Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Lex, someone apparently named Mister Terrific, some fucking dragon thing, a guy with a face like a zen garden and fuck knows what else and I'm just going "OK. Take my money." I have no excuse or explanation why one resonates for me and the other turns me off.
 
I think it hit me last night, the whole trailer is an answer to the question from the first movie.

You got me, whoes got you?

Throughout the trailer people cry out superman, people who are down, desperate and need saving.

And at the start of the trailer superman is the same.

Only we see know who has him, it's Krypto.
 
Volpone said:
OK. Another observation: I've been bitching about the next Captain America because it looks like a muddled mess. But we've got Supes, Krypto, Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Lex, someone apparently named Mister Terrific, some fucking dragon thing, a guy with a face like a zen garden and fuck knows what else and I'm just going "OK. Take my money." I have no excuse or explanation why one resonates for me and the other turns me off.
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Mister Terrific is well established in the comics as a supersmart inventor/gadgeteer type. He was in the Justice Society a few reboots back. Zen garden guy is Metamorpho, the Element Man, who can rearrange his body into any shape and any element. He's like Plastic Man 2.0, sorta. Dragon thing I can't help you with. My only real complaint is the actor playing Luthor looks too young. Luthor these days is supposed to be an evil CEO type character.
 
Just another observation: Completely underwhelmed by the upcoming Captain America movie because "it has too much stuff going on in it" but thrilled by a teaser trailer with: Krypto, Guy Gardner, Lex Luthor, Hawkgirl, some B-list hero apparently named Mister Terrific, and God knows what else. Is that hypocritical? I can't say.
 
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