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The difference being, of course, that the Japanese attacked before Pearl Harbor even knew they were at war. The attack on York, on the other hand, was the culmination of a few military campaigns that admitted had not gone well for the American troops.SaintLucifer said:Uh, I live in present-day 'YORK'. By the way, the attack on York was the equivalent of Japan's sneak-attack on Pearl Harbour. Yet you whine to the world about that cowardly sneak attack. It is alright for you to do it but not for the Japanese? Hypocrites.
See the beginning of this post.You people need to understand history.
As usual, you're telling half-truths.The Colonies rebelled because they did not wish to pay taxes to Britain even though the motherland sent out its navy and ground forces to protect the USA from both the French and the Indians. The Colonies wanted this protection for free. All Britain wanted was for the Colonies to share in the costs of their own protection. You rebelled. You wanted your cake and eat it. You wanted the people of Great Britain to pay your way and when they refused you cried like the spoiled babies you were.
Actually, it was Louis XVI, Franklin really didn't get to see him that much until American troops started winning victories (more on that later), and I believe it was Ben himself who was getting pleasured by the French ladies, but perhaps that was just a Freudian slip on your part. I dunno.Then you went over to France, kneeled down before Louis IV and sucked his cock every day for 2 years before he decided to send his best troops to fight a cause you were losing.
Ok, the Treaty of Alliance with France was signed in February of 1778. By then, the American force had:It was not until the arrival of these crack French troops you started to actually win some battles.
Actually, one (meaning you) must be reminded that the American style of guerilla warfare arose during the American phase of the Seven Years War by a British subject named Robert Rogers...who formed Rogers' Rangers in 1756 to operate under royal orders against the French during the "French and Indian War" as we call it. The atrocities introduced by both sides during that conflict (and I believe it was the British who started paying Indians for scalps) far exceed any atrocities real or imagined during the American Revolution. Now that was a real war...none of this pussy "form ranks and deliver volleys" crap you see later.One must be reminded the British were introduced to guerilla warfare for the first time by the colonials.
I'm unaware of anyone using women and children as shields in any fight, and I tend to dismiss this whole paragraph as simply smear tactics instead of real history. Use of such words as "barbarism" and "psychotic" tends to support this. Ho-hum.They were also introduced to barbarism. Captured British generals were hung or had their heads decapitated. This threw off the British who believe in the gentleman's art of war. Never had Britain in its 800 years of fighting wars ever experienced such barbarism. Even the European powers were disgusted and began to understand why the Empire decided to give the Colonies their independence. The British did not wish to have anything further to do with such a psychotic peoples. The Americans today talk about their 'brave' lads fighting the Empire. What was so brave about hit-and-run tactics where they used their own women and children as shields?
Hmmm...well, there were three initial campaigns in Canada, which all ended in failure, but what about:Actually you LOST the War of 1812 MORON. You lost badly.
How would a threat by Napolean persuade the British to agree to pre-war boundaries?We had possession of the Great Lakes and all of the American cities around them. We returned them only as part of an agreement whereby pre-1812 borders were honoured. The only reason the British agreed to this was because of their problems with Napoleon's Grande Armee.
More rhetoric and no substance.Your military was a pathetic joke we were not too concerned about and wanted to deal with a REAL army. Never forget, you STARTED the War of 1812 and remain upset to this day that you lost it and you KNOW Napoleon saved your asses. It is a fact if not for Napoleon the USA would be today a CAnadian province.
Canadian regiments do not equal British regiments. The deciding factor for American losses when invading Canadian territory was that we suffered the same fate any invader does when going into large amounts of enemy territory...the local population. Did Canada itself defend itself against American invasions? Except for that unpleasantness at York and the loss of the Great Lakes to American ships, yes. Canada did quite well.Uh yes, Canadians did in fact fight in the War of 1812. Canadians were part of the Empire you dipshit. During 1812, it was Upper Canada and Lower Canada. The Canadian militia (a real organisation) fought alongside the British and many were actually integrated into the British military. So yes Canadians can and do say we kicked your asses in 1812. Never forget it. We remain the only territory to ever defeat the USA on your own native soil.
szhismine said:history lesson = boring.![]()
Ishcabittle said:OMG LUCY JUST KEEPS GETTING FUNNIEER!!!
SaintLucifer said:Everyone knows the USA would still be British today if not for the French. Look at those numbers my American children. Pfftt. Yes, you are right. You were defeating the British before the arrival of the French. Allllllllrrrriiiiigggghhhttt. LOL. Everywhere I see in the battle reports American/French forces were two to three times the size of their British counterparts. Yet the British still almost succeeded in destroying the rebellion. They would have succeeded if not for the entire French Navy showing up in Yorktown. By the way, true guerilla warfare was started by the Americans at Charleston. Perhaps you should have those two history professors fired yes? MORON. Never speak of British history to a Briton.
CoyoteUgly said:Wow...someone learned to cut and paste. And I spent all that time typing from my education. :roll:
If a Briton wants to discuss history, then I'll do it.
Give Burgoyne my regards.![]()
CoyoteUgly said:You destroyed my arguments? Oh. Ok.
Actually, you destroyed what remained of your credibility on this board from what I can see.
I dub thee St. Lucy Up The Spout. Rise and take your oath...from this point on, you exist purely as an example to others.![]()
CoyoteUgly said:Actually, you destroyed what remained of your credibility on this board from what I can see.
Ishcabittle said:Keep flappin' yer jaws, you cunt.
SaintLucifer said:Oooh, a threat. LOL.
SaintLucifer said:After seeing Americans in action in Iraq I cannot say American threats bother me in the least. LOL.
When Canadians get mad, their faces get redden, they stomp in disapproval, and announce [insert here] to be un-Canadian. When Americans get mad, cities are destroyed, populations are displaced, and thousands lay dead. LOL.SaintLucifer said:Oooh, a threat. After seeing Americans in action in Iraq I cannot say American threats bother me in the least. It is like a mouse squeaking at me loudly in a wasted attempt to frighten me. Since Iraq no foreign national will ever fear an American again. LOL.
Messenger said:When Canadians get mad, their faces get redden, they stomp in disapproval, and announce [insert here] to be un-Canadian. When Americans get mad, cities are destroyed, populations are displaced, and thousands lay dead. LOL.
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