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Marquis De Sade said:
She probably married him because no one else would accept marrying her. Judging by the fact that your daughter posts at TK and is into this whole science-fiction/"internet memes"/crap package obsessively, she's not much better than her shitty husband, quality wise. You should've left them together, and paid their bills. 500$ per month isn't that much of a price to pay so that your daughter can get laid.

Congratulations for presumably (since there's a 85% probability that this thread is a steaming pile of bull shit) fucking up your daughter's marriage. What I always admired about you is the sheer viciousness and destructiveness.

If only Cassie was like you. *sigh*
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This was supposed to be a troll, right? You really suck at this, FDS.
 
Not at all, I don't know how to "troll", even if I intend to.

I just stated two obvious facts :

1- Éloise's daughter is not better than her husband, dorkwise. The fact that she (the daughter) knows about the existence of Troll Kingdom, posts in it, and is familiar with the dorkish internet memes tells a lot about her quality. She's in the same pit as her husband, they were probably a happy couple whose idea of fun was to play online games against each other, debate Star Trek, read comic books, and watch Japanese animations; nothing wrong with that. But Éloise should stop bitching about her son-in-law, especially when his quality is equal to that of her daughter. Financial problems aside, she's criticizing in him the very thing that she and her daughter are.

2- I forgot what the second fact is.
 
Marquis, you are in error in what you assume about my daughter. Your presumptions remove you from the state of grace you had so briefly regained.
 
eloisel said:
LOL - I see how it reads. But, they were together a very long time and were young way back then when he had promise.

When they originally moved in with me they had both lost their jobs from a company that closed up and moved north and then 9/11 happened shortly thereafter. Jobs were scarce around here. Then, it worked out that they were living with me because I have a big house that is way too big for me by myself. With them here, I could travel some and they take care of the animals and vice versa.

Just somewhere in there he got addicted to the internet and gave up his life. It is as bad as drugs or alcohol for him. In many ways it is very sad. He used to have an excellent sense of humor, was quite witty, very personable, and reasonably sociable. Physically he was a beautiful person but now at 32 he is falling apart because just about all he does is sit in front of his computer 24/7 drinking Mountain Dew and eating pizza. He wouldn't help do stuff around the house. He wouldn't go out to dinner or to be with their friends and his family. When she was in the hospital, he could only manage a half hour or so away from his computer before he'd be jonesing.

I think he has been depressed as well for a very long time but we were unable to get him to do anything about his problems - seek counseling, see a doctor, something. It is a waste of life. I hope his parents are able to help him get back on track, that this break from his computer will help him remember there is more to life than playing computer games.
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The loss of a person's job can be somewhat traumatic. Not incredibly traumatic, but its enough to shake a person's self-esteem. If they don't recover quickly and get back on their feet and into ANY job, likely they'll never go anywhere in life. It appears that he didn't have the intestinal fortitude to get it together.
 
Well if it's any consideration,

This is a good thing. My soon to be ex will get to start his life over and hopefully things will work out for him.

As for me, things will also be better.

He and I were just different two people.
I love to go out dancing, camping and travel, and that was just not his cup of tea.

Last night we took him to the bus station.
After that I got dressed and went to a friends house where we were going to be picked up by a limo.

There were 16 of us in a stretch hummer limo.
Full stocked bar and lots of partying till we got to the club.
Yeah having friends that take care of me :)

It will all be good. I am a little down right now, but there are so many changes coming into my life now, that this will all be for the better.
 
Conchaga said:
The loss of a person's job can be somewhat traumatic. Not incredibly traumatic, but its enough to shake a person's self-esteem. If they don't recover quickly and get back on their feet and into ANY job, likely they'll never go anywhere in life.
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I agree. I think the first couple of jobs that he lost were a little much for him.
But it became a really bad habit. Then when he lost this last job, it just seemed a bit to much.

He got to the point that he just did not care anymore.
 
MamaKitty Bite me jack.

Nah, you know I love your mom dearly, and respect her. You're lucky to have her. I'm not so sure about you, but that's only because I don't "know" you that well. I don't have a negative opinion of you, but a marriage isn't something you just toss because he's clinically depressed.

Just my opinion. There's more than one way to pry someone away from their addictions. You just have to care enough. Again this is my opinion, not necessarily based on your experience.

I see divorce as an insult to God, in addition to personal inability to be adult enough to fulfill the promise you made when you got married.

For better or worse, remember?
 
I think she is putting on a brave face to keep from crying her heart out. He has always been "the one" for her. However, sometimes, you have to do things contrary to the way you'd like to do them.

Further, I don't think divorce is an insult to god. I think people being wrong to each other just to stay "married" and not moving out of a toxic relationship so they can move forward to realize the full potential of their lives is an insult to god.

Besides, they are not Christian so Biblical mandates don't apply to them. Even if you still wish to apply Biblical mandates regarding divorce to them, you might try reading the entire relative chapters in Matthew and First Corinthians so that you would know that if an unbelieving mate leaves the believer, the believer is no longer held to the bondage of the law of marriage. She was at least raised with the knowledge of Christian principles as well as other disciplined belief systems so that she could understand what her own core beliefs were.
 
And, before you come down on me about conflicting disciplines, go back and read Genesis and the covenant God made with man after the flood - that God would write his laws on the hearts of mankind so that they would know them and that God would never destroy mankind by flood again and that the rainbow is a symbol of that covenant.

Then, consider why god would do that - write his laws on our hearts. Translators and revisionists of biblical text are not perfect in their translations to begin with; then they keep in, possibly revise, what they want and throw away the rest.

Then, consider the parable of the blind wise men trying to describe an elephant and compare that to how people are trying to describe god and what is god and what is god's ways.

Then, consider all the "anti-Christs" (example Jim Jones) who interpret scripture to bolster their manipulations of people for their own personal reasons.

Then, before you go pulling splinters out of someone else's eye, might try pulling that freaking log out of your own ....

just saying.
 
Oh hell, I said it was my freaking opinion, NOT a personal judgement on your daughter. And I was talking about my personal relationship with God as it applies to me and MY marriage. That could have been me you were driving to that bus station on any one of my bad days. I feel bad for her if she loves him. Terrible, actually.

Sorry for any other inference, seriously.
 
jack said:
Now I'm crying.
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Don't. Those are honest feelings, based on what is your core belief system. Where you are is right for you and you know it.

Otherwise, you'd be with me and we'd be doing naughty things and all that.
 
eloisel said:
I told him to get out of my house.

He lost yet another good job back in October because he wouldn't get up in the morning and go to work.

It was the rule - they pay their share of the bills, I don't say a thing about what they do with their time or money.

Well, last week I discovered that his share of the bills was 2 months or more past due and the services were about to be shut off. Cost me $700 to pay everything up. He wasn't going to say anything, just let the electricity and water be shut off. The satellite TV and cable internet I don't care as much about. I'd miss them but, you know, I'd be cool and clean.

So, I told him he had to get a job by August 1st or get out of my house. He chose to pack up his computer and what little he has in the way of books and clothes and move to his mother's house in Kentucky. Of course, I had to buy him a bus ticket too.

Now she is making me go to the bus station and wait for the GD bus to come pick him up and take him away. The SIL is just a POS and he is ruining my day.
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Okay, so it's actually not your fault. It's his fault for being a lump of shit.
 
The Saint said:
Okay, so it's actually not your fault. It's his fault for being a lump of shit.
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Well, yeah. I supported him for the better part of 10 years. At some point, I was only enabling him to be a homeless person after I'd died and there was no one to support him. He was my SIL for a long time and I still hoped that he would grow up or get help or something but here it is three years later and he is still living in his grandparents basement addicted to the internet and drinking Mountain Dew. He's his own joke.
 
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