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Dollhouse discussion thread

CaptainWacky said:
Well the Dollhouse people aren't supposed to be good guys, are they? They're not supposed to have morals.

The spoiler's pretty good. ALL WE NEED NOW is Summer Glau and Michelle Trachtenberg as Russian sisters (and Glau replacing Dushku as the lead would be good too, oooh controversial.)
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Well, they at least tell themselves they are making the world a better place (making better worlds?). There must be more too it than we've seen.
 
There's certainly higher levels to the organisation (the english woman talked about her "employers".)
 
Tisi said:
Isn't Amy Acker (Fred from Angel) supposed to be in it as well?
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she was the lab rat with the cuts all over her face.
 
I thought the part where he doesnt kill her when she's drugged was idiotic too.
"yeah, I'll poson you, gloat over it, and wait til it wears off! So there!"
WTF?
I'm hanging in there for Joss' sake - but so far it's been The Seriously Stupid Show.
 
I'm glad you think so too.. I was beginning to feel like a traitor to the MF!
 
NEVER!

So ...how many more eps should we give it before turning to a good book?
 
Cassie said:
I'm glad you think so too.. I was beginning to feel like a traitor to the MF!
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Well so far it's not bad it just isn't that good.

I'll hold on a bit longer.






















Then again I am wearing a Blue Sun shirt.... :unsure:
 
Well it's on between SCC and BSG so I'll probably watch it til it's canceled. SORRY TOMTREK.
 
He was just toying with her.
 
CaptainWacky said:
He was just toying with her.
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That was my thought. Why would Alpha leave Echo alive earlier to kill her now?



Also, does the naming system mean that there are only 26 'dolls'?
 
Sierra was the lastest, so only TUVWXYZ to go!
 
$20 says Z is black! :rofl:
 
That would be Zulu...OH I SEE. ;)
 
cassie said:
Well it's on between SCC and BSG so I'll probably watch it til it's canceled. SORRY TOMTREK.
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what's SCC?
 
Sarah Connor Chronicles.
 
I'm in agreement with most folks here. "Like it, don't Love it". This may be blasphemy, but I kinda feel the same way about Firefly.

Let's face it, Buffy and Angel were pretty much "perfect" series. In their entire runs, they maybe had 3-4 sub-par episodes each. The rest were above-average to "so fucking great I need to wear a condom when I watch them". Hell, I still maintain that Season 3 of Buffy is THE best single season of any tv show I've ever watched.

The thing is, it's tough to pull off a series with storylines so complex, that require a viewer to tune in every week to keep up. Nowadays, with viewership shrinking, creators are mandated to have self-contained episodes, that anyone can jump on and watch occasionaly. Lost and 24 are about the only major-network shows that require you to watch every week, or be totally confused and give up.

What the network execs DON'T get is that there are audiences out there that will be EXTREMELY loyal to a show that doesn't insult their intelligence or disregard continuity. Heroes didn't start tanking in the ratings because it was too complex or hard to follow; it's tanking because the core audience became turned off at the constant "re-booting" where entire plotlines were just dropped because they're "too complex".

Aside from Lost and 24 (which are the two best shows on tv right now, IMHO), the best shows are on smaller networks. The Shield and Nip Tuck on FX. Leverage on TNT. BSG on Sci-Fi. You get the idea.

Dollhouse seems like a cool concept that's been watered down to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Sad, but I think Whedon's best work will be for a smaller network, or maybe some online show. I'll keep watching, though. I owe him that much.
 
I wish he'd pitch a show to HBO or Showtime. They aren't afraid to give a series a chance to develop, and they don't have to worry about offending the bible belt.
 
Cassie said:
I wish he'd pitch a show to HBO or Showtime. They aren't afraid to give a series a chance to develop, and they don't have to worry about offending the bible belt.
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Is HBO really his demographic though?

I mean isn't he aiming at the 15-25 (although deep enough that old fucks can enjoy), which is too poor for premium channels mostly?
 
HBO could be his demographic. I'd prefer Dollhouse if it was smarter.. maybe he should GROW UP! lol Don't most people in the 15-25 range download the shows they want anyway?
 
interestingly enough, some of my favorite shows lately were HBO Showtime R rated shin-digs. Dexter, Weeds, Six Feet Under, United States of Tara (really good, this one), Flight of the Concords (sucking this season, unfortunately) blah blah blah there's more etc.

so BDM is right, the best shows are the ones that don't have to appeal to everyone. modern shows on the big channels just can't be too intelligent, i mean, c'mon, they are made for average americans, and we all know how that goes.

it's important to note that i don't think any of the americans here are average. above average all.
 
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