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Dirk: You idiot.

Yub, get over yourself. You were wrong and got shown up for it. Quit before you make yourself look even more idiotic.
 
Yub said:
Zoophilia: Currently illegal in the US and UK...no more duck sex jokes, Minefield.
Rape: Currently illegal in the US and UK....I think all TK could clean up its act here

We all need to vigilant and report lawbreakers to Mentalist STRAIGHT AWAY for the sake of those who might accidentally blunder on to a troll board and expect to be clean and pristine, because we wouldn't want to offend..
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This is the kind of thing that could become quite irritating over time. The eggageration of the rules to remind and repremand anyone anytime something that even vaguely approaches these guidelines becomes posted.

This would fit in quite well with the kinder, gentler Badlands we are working so diligently to create. How could any one of us not get completely behind it?
 
I remember when Badlands were first created.

An offshoot of the first Ranter invasion. Other things were happening too, but Ranter's were wonderful.
 
One day, this minor little TK forum known as the Badlands might be completely different than it is today, just as it doesn't resemble its humble beginnings.

We just need to be able to adapt to the changes or be left in the past.
 
TP/SF has always been my "stomping grounds"

I just like hangin' with the cool kidz :bigass:
 
I went back to ToplessRobot.com (hosted in France and NOT the U.S, btw) to re-read this "story" that Yub posted with the SOLE intention of causing trouble. He even admitted that he had not read the piece yet is still vehementley defending it. Way to go. Very convincing.


It's extremely explicit and makes note of the "underage" element of Astroboy on numerous occasions. The fact that it's technically a robot is just that: a technicality. It's a substitute for a little 11 year-old-boy and that is how the entire fanfic reads as Tony Stark rapes and abuses him in graphic detail. This is explicit peadophilic porn written for pedophiles to get off on. If you doubt that then go and find out yourself.

Even on the discussion pages of Toplessrobot there are plenty of comments asking for this to be pulled down. If you read the story you will see how little the robot qualifier actually means to the jist of the piece.


I would rather be called an oppressive asshole for forbidding a piece like that than having to deal with the host or the law. We can argue over the absolute letter of the law here all day long but I know that if someone wanted to cause trouble and reported the site for having the material that Yub posted that there would be, at the very least, questions asked by the host.

I don't condone it and I don't want it. When I said no grey area I meant it. We are talking about explicit descriptions of sexual acts with a robot that is a clear substitution for an underage boy.

There is a BIG distinction to the stuff posted in the minefield and other parts of the board. And you know it.
 
Cacophony said:
You missed the "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" part of it. It's obviously up to a person's discretion as to whether something is serious literature/artistic or not, and it's certainly Menty's right to not allow it if that's what he wants. But it's still not illegal. And in the article that was posted, the guy took a plea bargain. Had he gone before the jury, he could very well not have been convicted
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I agree, but he probably would have lost his website before then.
 
Gagh said:
Maybe, but why should they do it HERE when it means the board is it at risk? Not that you'd care about that, of course.
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I realize that, but that's why I said that it's up to Menty. If he doesn't want it here, I'm not going to post it (not that I would anyways). But to say that it's absolutely illegal is wrong. I'm really not condoning it, but if that's what people want to write/read about, then that's really up to them. As long as no real child is being harmed, then I don't really see it as a big deal.
 
Failconarg, I'd be careful if I were you. Your security blanket is gone. Manners isn't in charge anymore and she's the only one that liked you.
 
Mentalist said:
I went back to ToplessRobot.com (hosted in France and NOT the U.S, btw) to re-read this "story" that Yub posted with the SOLE intention of causing trouble. He even admitted that he had not read the piece yet is still vehementley defending it. Way to go. Very convincing.
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I agree, I did post it to cause trouble. I didn't except the huge overreaction I admit, I mean this this TK. I would disagree I'm vehemently defending it. I'm more defending the idea, the idea that the most that this should get is a wry smile and "nice try" then deletion. Repetition of idiocy begets Daycare.

Ily totally got it, it's incredibly funny to watch the uproar this causes when murder, rape and all manner of other stuff routinely trotted about. Even paedophilia gets a slight look in from time to time. Making you all hypocrites [yes, even me]. Dirk's and subsequent reactions prompted me to make a meal of it.


It's extremely explicit and makes note of the "underage" element of Astroboy on numerous occasions. The fact that it's technically a robot is just that: a technicality. It's a substitute for a little 11 year-old-boy and that is how the entire fanfic reads as Tony Stark rapes and abuses him in graphic detail. This is explicit peadophilic porn written for pedophiles to get off on. If you doubt that then go and find out yourself.

Even on the discussion pages of Toplessrobot there are plenty of comments asking for this to be pulled down. If you read the story you will see how little the robot qualifier actually means to the jist of the piece.
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Agreed. And I'll not be posting any more of it in the future, not when the point is already made.

I would rather be called an oppressive asshole for forbidding a piece like that than having to deal with the host or the law. We can argue over the absolute letter of the law here all day long but I know that if someone wanted to cause trouble and reported the site for having the material that Yub posted that there would be, at the very least, questions asked by the host.

I don't condone it and I don't want it. When I said no grey area I meant it. We are talking about explicit descriptions of sexual acts with a robot that is a clear substitution for an underage boy.
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I'm neither faulting your reaction nor the fact that it got modded. Not at all.
But the very fact you had to be become involved is kinda my point.
 
Yub, our mutual dislike of each other aside. I admit I overreacted on the picture, but I stand by my decision on the story, and I think most people here including Menty agree. Whether you want to believe it or not, I'm not singling you out. I take my mod position seriously. When someone trusts me with their property I do the best job I can. It wouldn't matter who posted that story. It would have been gone just as fast.
 
Dirk Funk said:
Yub, our mutual dislike of each other aside. I admit I overreacted on the picture, but I stand by my decision on the story, and I think most people here including Menty agree. Whether you want to believe it or not, I'm not singling you out. I take my mod position seriously. When someone trusts me with their property I do the best job I can. It wouldn't matter who posted that story. It would have been gone just as fast.
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When did I ever mention you singling me out?

And my position stands. I think the chorus of OMG KIDDIE PRON!! IT'LL DESTROY US ALL ARRGGGGGHHHH was far more indicative of lesser, weaker boards. I had a big laugh at it, but really is this TK or Weenie Hut Jrs? I say again, the most this should have elicited was a wry smile, a comment of "Try again" and deletion. The circus you idiots made of it....OMG....
 
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