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i need to collect my thoughts on the tablet
- Thread starter Ishcabittle
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In a few states, yeah, it's illegal. Don't quote me on this, because I can't remember whether it was Gizmodo or Engadget who reported it, but recent findings show that bans on cell phone usage (other than texting) had absolutely NO effect on the number of accidents motorists got into.
Of course, that's not really what the bans were about. It isn't about making people safer, it's about enabling government to make just one more inroad into controlling peoples' lives. That's why the ineffectiveness of such bans will never result in them being repealed -- because whether or not the ban is actually effective for its stated purpose is utterly irrelevant.
SAUSAGEMAN
Registered User
Fuddlemiff, I'd like you to take a look at Microsoft's concept for a tablet that's been floating around for a few months. I'm genuinely baffled by it, because I can't see a use for it, but I think you're much closer to the target audience than I am, so I'd like to know what you think.
They certainly nailed it on the UI front, but the functionality they display and choose to emphasise doesn't grab me in any way.
http://gizmodo.com/5369493/leaked-courier-video-shows-how-well-actually-use-it
They certainly nailed it on the UI front, but the functionality they display and choose to emphasise doesn't grab me in any way.
http://gizmodo.com/5369493/leaked-courier-video-shows-how-well-actually-use-it
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
Okay, I gave it a chance and watched the first couple of minutes, but even the poor cow doing the voiceover sounds bored with it. I have NO clue what it's for OR who the target audience is. It's like a Nintendo DS that's turned on its side and filled with shit.
Yeah, other than the UI, the Courier just looks... cumbersome.
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
So I'm watching the keynote presentation and the same things are still getting to me. I think it's a really remarkable and capable device considering its size, and I'm sure I'd enjoy using it, but he completely glossed over the non-functional flash content when he was viewing the New York Post's site ("See? It just works!"... um) and then showed us how we can use the iTunes store to buy music, but doesn't mention that we won't be able to listen to any of it while doing other things. Like I said before, not being able to use more than one app at a time just seems a real shame. Having some music in the background while reading an ebook, or being able to take down notes from a web page are simple enough pleasures, aren't they? They seem like the kind of things Apple would expect you to want to do as you sit casually with your iPad, but they don't give you that capability. You're just expected to sit there with your iPod alongside like a proper Applewhore.
SAUSAGEMAN
Registered User
Two things:
It doesn't multitask as a general rule, but just like with the iPhone, you can have your music playing while you're using another app, and you can get push notifications on screen from any other application.
And the Flash thing was entirely on purpose. That presentation was rehearsed to hell and back, and they knew what'd be on screen when he went there. That was Apple's way of whipping out their dick and saying "no flash support, what of it?" They want to kill flash, and they're not really shy about it.
Here's a quote from Jobs on Adobe (that I only saw today, I swear!)
It doesn't multitask as a general rule, but just like with the iPhone, you can have your music playing while you're using another app, and you can get push notifications on screen from any other application.
And the Flash thing was entirely on purpose. That presentation was rehearsed to hell and back, and they knew what'd be on screen when he went there. That was Apple's way of whipping out their dick and saying "no flash support, what of it?" They want to kill flash, and they're not really shy about it.
Here's a quote from Jobs on Adobe (that I only saw today, I swear!)
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
Oh, good news on the musak front.
Them's fightin words about Flash. It'll be interesting to see if there really is a shift away from it, and if it'll be brought on by the iPad. I'm quite skeptical at the moment, knowing how much web designers like using Flash despite the alternatives at their disposal. We'll see.
Them's fightin words about Flash. It'll be interesting to see if there really is a shift away from it, and if it'll be brought on by the iPad. I'm quite skeptical at the moment, knowing how much web designers like using Flash despite the alternatives at their disposal. We'll see.
SAUSAGEMAN
Registered User
Apparently, some sites have already been seeing a move away from Flash in the past year or two, even if it's marginal (and anecdotal, obviously).
Daring Fireball, a blog about Apple, had 32% of its visitors not have flash-enabled browsers last week.
kottke.org had <4% of their visits coming from non-flash enabled browsers a year ago, 15% in January 2010.
On Lifehacker, who has a much more Windows heavy audience, it was 2.3% four years ago (the lowest point), 6% last month. Lifehacker has a separate mobile site, though, so those numbers don't include smartphone visits, which would raise the non-flash number significantly.
If, in a year, you won't be able to rely on Flash being enabled on 10% or 20% of all browsers, I do think web designers will have to take a look at how they can reach the rest of that audience. Along with Youtube and Vimeo beginning to move away from Flash for video content, I think it's in trouble.
Also, it runs like crap on OS X. Fuck Flash.
Daring Fireball, a blog about Apple, had 32% of its visitors not have flash-enabled browsers last week.
kottke.org had <4% of their visits coming from non-flash enabled browsers a year ago, 15% in January 2010.
On Lifehacker, who has a much more Windows heavy audience, it was 2.3% four years ago (the lowest point), 6% last month. Lifehacker has a separate mobile site, though, so those numbers don't include smartphone visits, which would raise the non-flash number significantly.
If, in a year, you won't be able to rely on Flash being enabled on 10% or 20% of all browsers, I do think web designers will have to take a look at how they can reach the rest of that audience. Along with Youtube and Vimeo beginning to move away from Flash for video content, I think it's in trouble.
Also, it runs like crap on OS X. Fuck Flash.
Eggs Mayonnaise
All In With The Nuts
Such a shame, Adobe and Apple were such good friends when they were kids.
Ishcabittle
Well-known member
i'm with sausageman. i'd like to think jobs was thinking that in his head while he was doing it, fantasizing about beating adobe with his penis.
headvoid
Can I have Ops?
We are redesigning our corporate website at the moment and have made a decision not to use Flash at all.
1. A lot of our corporate clients don't use it, so we would have to design a mirror pure HTML site.
2. It screws your Search Engine Optimisation
3. It is slow to load when clients are working remote, meaning people get bored
4. Most people want to get to "contact us" and "case studies / who you work for" quickly in a company website. Flash isn't necessary for this.
5. You can create exciting visual effects in XHTML or HTML5. Arrows going through apples and whizzy movement sometimes looks like you are trying too hard.
So yes, I can see the death of Flash.
1. A lot of our corporate clients don't use it, so we would have to design a mirror pure HTML site.
2. It screws your Search Engine Optimisation
3. It is slow to load when clients are working remote, meaning people get bored
4. Most people want to get to "contact us" and "case studies / who you work for" quickly in a company website. Flash isn't necessary for this.
5. You can create exciting visual effects in XHTML or HTML5. Arrows going through apples and whizzy movement sometimes looks like you are trying too hard.
So yes, I can see the death of Flash.
Ishcabittle
Well-known member
it all comes down to this:
in the 2000s, if you wanted dynamic content rendered correctly across all browsers, you worked in flash.
in the 2010s, if you want dynamic content rendered correctly across all browsers (which now includes mobile browsers) you can't use flash.
in the 2000s, if you wanted dynamic content rendered correctly across all browsers, you worked in flash.
in the 2010s, if you want dynamic content rendered correctly across all browsers (which now includes mobile browsers) you can't use flash.
You'd think Cassie would be all about teh broadband. Seein' as she's a BROAD an' all! 
Ishcabittle
Well-known member
RURAL FLORIDA!!! *shakes fist at heavens*
