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Israel tearing Gaza apart

Ramen said:
Silly GTC. You have to be human first to have rights. Perhaps one day, when the Palestinians (offcast of other shithole countries) decide to evolve, then they can sit at the big boy table.
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You really are retarded ! Or is this just a troll ? Sorry, still getting the hand of the new influx of shitheads that flooded TK.
 
Now they're preparing for a ground assault.

I'm not calling this one, but I sincerely hope these bastards get the same treatment they got at the hands of the Hezbollah... an embarassing asswhipping.
 
Crazy fuckin israel, they declared war!

""We have stretched our hand in peace many times to the Palestinian people. We have nothing against the people of Gaza," Defense Minister Ehud Barak said. "But this is an all-out war against Hamas and its branches."

Livni defended the airstrikes, saying the raids have been aimed at "only military targets and places in which we know Hamas members are.
Unfortunately, in this kind of attack, there are some civilian casualties," she said. "But Israel took all the necessary actions to warn the civilians before the attacks to leave the places they know that Hamas stays."

Carpet bombing civilians, & killing/maiming scores of children = only military targets?
Nasty shit man
 
SuN said:
Carpet bombing civilians, & killing/maiming scores of children = only military targets?
Nasty shit man
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Considering the IAF doesn't even have the ability to carpet bomb period, I find this highly unlikely.
 
Doesn't have the ability? Sure they do; its their favourite war move. Its what they do best, they love to bomb the shit out of civilian area's.
 
SuN said:
Doesn't have the ability? Sure they do; its their favourite war move. Its what they do best, they love to bomb the shit out of civilian area's.
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No they do not. The IAF has no bombers, the biggest things they got are A-4s and F-4s. Everything I've read has them useing F-15 and F-16s, so precision bombing.



However if they did want to level Gaza, while they don't have bombers, they could just turn their Howitzers lose. Thank God they've been showing their usual restraint and are just going with airstrikes.
 
Yup. Yet another case of a liberal using a term that they don't understand improperly because they think it sounds cool. A rifle isn't an "assault rifle" just because it is black and scary looking, and bombing isn't "carpet bombing" just because there are some civilian casualties.

Carpet bombing, in its purest form, was conducted during the Linebacker campaigns that ultimately brought the North Vietnamese to the bargaining table. In it you take an assload of B-52s, flying in formation, so high up that people on the ground can't see or hear them and you completely obliterate a square kilometer of ground. One minute you've got a dirty commie supply dump, the next you have a smoking crater, 3/4 of a mile across. That is carpet bombing.
 
Maybe next election, all the Palestinian scum won't vote in a fucking terrorist organization for their government.

Asking Israel to accept a peace fire with Hamas is like asking the United States to accept a cease fire from Al Qaeda.
 
Update

Israel describes Gaza assault as 'war to the bitter end'

Published: Monday, December 29, 2008 | 4:01 PM ET
Canadian Press NewsItem/NewsComponent/NewsLines/ByLine

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Israel obliterated symbols of Hamas power on the third day of what the defense minister described Monday as a "war to the bitter end," striking next to the Hamas premier's home and devastating a security compound and a university building.

The three-day death toll rose Monday to 364, with some 1,400 reported wounded. The UN said at least 62 of the dead were civilians, while medics said eight children under the age of 17 were killed in two separate strikes overnight.

Israel launched its campaign, the deadliest against Palestinians in decades, on Saturday in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns.

Since then, the number of Israeli troops on the Gaza border has doubled and the Israeli cabinet has approved the call-up of 6,500 reserve soldiers.

The strikes, which drove Hamas leaders into hiding and damaged the organization's ability to launch rockets, did little to end the barrages, which continued through the day, with incoming rocket sirens sending Israelis scrambling for cover.

One medium-range rocket fired at the Israeli city of Ashkelon killed an Arab construction worker there Monday and wounded several others. He was the second Israeli killed since the beginning of the offensive.

At first light Monday, strong winds blew black smoke from the bombed sites over Gaza City's deserted streets. The air hummed with the buzz of drone aircraft and the roar of jets, punctuated by airstrike explosions. Palestinian health officials said one strike killed four Islamic Jihad militants and a child.

Some Palestinians ventured outside for mourning. In northern Gaza, a father lifted the body of his 4-year-old during a funeral Monday for five children from the same family killed in an Israeli missile strike.

On Sunday, Hamas missiles struck for the first time near the city of Ashdod, only 40 kilometres from Israel's heart in Tel Aviv. Hamas leaders have also threatened to renew suicide attacks inside Israel. A missile from Gaza struck Ashdod again on Monday, seriously wounding two people.

On Monday, the White House released a statement saying "in order for the violence to stop, Hamas must stop firing rockets into Israel and agree to respect a sustainable and durable cease-fire."

But in Damascus, Syria, a senior exiled Hamas official said there can be no talk of a truce with Israel until the assault ends and Israel reopens the Gaza crossings.

"We need our liberty, we need our freedom and we need to be independent. If we don't accomplish this objective, then we have to resist. This is our right," Abu Marzouk said in an interview.

A a six-month truce between Hamas and Israeli expired earlier this month, but Hamas refused to extend it, saying Israel had violated its terms.

Most of those killed since Saturday were members of Hamas security forces, though the precise numbers remain unclear. A Hamas police spokesman, Ehab Ghussen, said 180 members of the Hamas security forces were among the dead, and the UN said at least 62 of the dead were civilians. A rise in civilian asualties could intensify international pressure on Israel to end the offensive.

Ehud Barak, the Israeli defense minister, told parliament Israel was not fighting the residents of Gaza.

"But we have a war to the bitter end against Hamas and its branches," he said, adding that the goal was to deal Hamas a "severe blow" and that the operation would be "widened and deepened as needed."

Israel's intense bombings - more than 300 airstrikes since midday Saturday - reduced dozens of buildings to rubble. The military said naval vessels also bombarded targets from the sea.

At the United Nations, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon again condemned Israel's excessive use of force and called for an immediate cease-fire.

"The frightening nature of what is happening on the ground, in particular its effects on children - who are more than half of the population - troubles me greatly. I have continuously stressed the need for strict observance of international humanitarian law," he said.

One Israeli strike destroyed a five-story building in the women's wing at Islamic University, one of the most prominent Hamas symbols in Gaza. Other attacks ravaged a compound controlled by one of the group's chief security arms and destroyed a house next to the residence of Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas prime minister.

Late Sunday, Israeli aircraft attacked a building in the Jebaliya refugee camp next to Gaza City, killing five children and teenagers under age 17 from the same family, Gaza Health Ministry official Dr. Moaiya Hassanain said. In the southern town of Rafah, a toddler and his two teenage brothers were killed in an airstrike aimed at a Hamas commander, Hassanain said. In Gaza City, another attack killed two women.

Gaza's nine hospitals were overwhelmed. Hassanain, who keeps a record for the Gaza Health Ministry, said that some of the over 1,400 wounded were now being taken to private clinics and even homes.

Abdel Hafez, a 55-year-old history teacher, waited outside a Gaza City bakery to buy bread. He said he was not a Hamas supporter but believed the strikes would only increase support for the group.

"Each strike, each drop of blood are giving Hamas more fuel to continue."

In Israel, 17 people have been killed in attacks from Gaza since the beginning of the year, including nine civilians - six of them killed by rockets - and eight soldiers, according to Israel's Foreign Ministry.

In Jerusalem, Israel's cabinet approved a call-up of 6,500 reserve soldiers Sunday in apparent preparation for a ground offensive. The final decision to call up reserves has yet to be made by the defense minister. Military experts said Israel would need at least 10,000 soldiers for a full-scale invasion.

The assault has sparked diplomatic fallout. Syria decided to suspend indirect peace talks with Israel, and the U.N. Security Council called on both sides to halt the fighting and asked Israel to allow humanitarian supplies into Gaza. Israel opened one of Gaza's border crossings Monday, and about 40 trucks had entered with food and medical supplies by midday, military spokesman Peter Lerner said.

Egypt also opened its borders to Gaza and allowed trucks loaded with humanitarian aid to enter the Rafah terminal Monday. It was also taking in wounded Palestinians from Gaza, with more than a dozen Egyptian ambulances waiting at the crossing.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who heads a moderate government in the West Bank and is holding peace talks with Israel, issued his strongest condemnation yet of the operation, calling it a "sweeping Israeli aggression against Gaza" and saying he would consult with his bitter rivals in Hamas in an effort to end it.

The carnage inflamed Arab and Muslim public opinion, setting off street protests in Arab communities in Israel and the West Bank, across the Arab world, and in some European cities.
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I wonder how much they'll annex this time around.
 
I guess they just wanted quiet when they attacked and annexed all that other land in previous wars then.

Israel has consistently taken and held territory in every major conflict unless forced to concede it due to international pressure. So why would it be any different this time?
 
Grandtheftcow said:
I guess they just wanted quiet when they attacked and annexed all that other land in previous wars then.
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Okay, seems someone else here has a problem with definitions.

First off the only thing Israel annexed is East Jerusalem. Everything else they occupied. BIG difference.


Israel has consistently taken and held territory in every major conflict unless forced to concede it due to international pressure.
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Actually they defied International Pressure by unilaterally withdrawing from the West Bank and Gaza strip.

So why would it be any different this time?
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B/c it would be different if they annexed it.

And Gaza is worthless. Way too many people in a very confined space. No aquifers to speak of. If Israel is going to annex anything it will be the edge of the West bank that is inside their security wall. That is actually very important as it provides a good chunk of Israel's water.
 
Grandtheftcow said:
I guess they just wanted quiet when they attacked and annexed all that other land in previous wars then.

Israel has consistently taken and held territory in every major conflict unless forced to concede it due to international pressure. So why would it be any different this time?
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That's not very likely.

Israel is already facing the threat of a demographic implosion, in the sense that the Arabs in the annexed territories are multiplying at what the j00z considers an alarming rate . Currently, Israel has 20% of its population Arab/Muslim ... consequently, the numbers of Arab MP's is growing in the Knesset - not that they have any relevance in Israeli decision making, but still that's an important indicator.

The last thing the Israeli administration would want is to annex more land, and nationalize more people.

All they want is to get rid of the nuisance Hamas constitutes for them. Obviously, they're far more comfortable with yes-men like Fatah running the show in Palestine.
 
Godspeed to the valiant Israeli forces as they perform the duty of protecting their innocents. :)
 
Ramen said:
Godspeed to the valiant Israeli forces as they perform the duty of protecting their innocents. :)
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...while being incredibly hot.
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