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Palin under investigation for ethics violations, could be impeached as governor

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In naming her as his vice presidential running mate Friday, Sen. John McCain hailed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as “someone who has fought against corruption.” But Palin is under two ethics investigations springing from accusations that she abused her office to pursue a personal grudge.

Palin has said she welcomes the investigations: “Hold me accountable.”

The investigations are reviewing the same accusation: that she dismissed the state’s top law enforcement official because of his refusal to fire a state trooper in a dispute that predated her election in 2006.

When she dismissed Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan on July 11, Palin said she wanted to take the commission in a new direction.

A week later, Monegan told NBC affiliate KTUU of Anchorage that he thought it was likely that he had been dismissed because he resisted pressure from Palin’s staff and husband to fire the trooper, who was involved in a bitter custody battle with the governor’s sister after their divorce in 2005.

Last month, the state Legislature appointed an independent investigator to review whether the governor or her aides abused their power by pressuring Monegan to fire the trooper, a probe that the Democratic chairman of the state Senate Judiciary Committee said could lead to Palin’s impeachment. The outside investigator, a retired assistant district attorney in Anchorage, was directed to file his report by Oct. 31, four days before the presidential election.

Palin strongly denied the accusations and ordered her own investigation by the state Law Department.

In a July 31 interview with CNBC, Palin defended the dismissal of Monegan, saying, “It is a governor’s prerogative, a right, to fill that Cabinet with members whom she or he believes will do best for the people whom we are serving.”

Palin promised her full cooperation, saying she would answer any questions from lawmakers, media and the public.

The dispute goes back to 2005, when Palin was a private citizen. Palin’s sister, Molly McCann, was involved in a contentious divorce and custody battle with Michael Wooten, whom Palin had recommended for the troopers division when she was mayor of the city of Wasilla five years previously.

KTUU reported that Wooten’s personnel file, which was released at his request, showed that Palin and her husband, Todd, filed an unspecified number of complaints against him during the custody case. Court documents included an e-mail that Sarah Palin sent as a private citizen to the director of the troopers division in August 2005, accusing Wooten of drinking in his patrol car, “illegal hunting techniques,” firing a Taser at his young stepson and threatening to kill her father.

Both Palins were interviewed by state troopers as part of an internal investigation, which dismissed many of the complaints. Wooten was, however, suspended for 10 days for shooting a moose and using the Taser on his stepson, a suspension that Monegan later reduced to five days.

Wooten remains a state trooper, and the matter never came to wide public attention until last month, when Monegan accused Palin’s husband and gubernatorial staff of having leaned on him to fire the trooper.

In interviews last month with KTUU, Monegan said Todd Palin pressured him numerous times to fire Wooten, but Todd Palin said they had had only one discussion.

“I met with Commissioner Monegan, showed him some information about Wooten and left it at that,” Todd Palin said.

Then, on Aug. 13, Sarah Palin called a news conference to acknowledge that the Law Department investigation had found that 14 members of her administration made more than 20 calls to Monegan and other public safety officials regarding Wooten since she became governor in 2006.

Among the evidence was an audiotape of a telephone call in February to a state troopers lieutenant by Frank Bailey, Palin’s director of boards and commissions. In the tape, Bailey says the Palins are puzzled why Wooten remained on the job.

“Todd and Sarah are scratching their heads, why on Earth hasn’t — why is this guy still representing the department?” Bailey said on the tape.

Palin called the tape a “smoking gun” and said she recognized that “I do now have to tell Alaskans that such pressure could have been perceived to exist.” But she said she never knew of the apparent pressure until this month as part of the Law Department inquiry.

“I have only now become aware of it,” Palin said.

Bailey was placed on administrative leave last week pending the full results of the investigation.
 
The questions are were the accusations of "Wooten of drinking in his patrol car, 'illegal hunting techniques,' firing a Taser at his young stepson and threatening to kill her father" investigated? If so, what was the outcome of the investigation? If the allegations were found to be true, why wasn't the trooper removed from duty?
 
All the charges against Wooten were dropped (turned out they were all from Palin (surprise) except for the illegal hunting (he shot a fucking Moose in Alaska out of season) The taser incident was an accident according to the sworn public testimony, but he was suspended for 5 days for the moose incident.

The better question is, why did Palin and her husband make over 20 calls using her office as soon as she became governor demanding to know why Wooten wasn't fired? Using 14 of her staff members to place such calls And then when he wasn't fired, why was Monegan removed from office as soon as Palin became governor?

Wooten had a VERY bitter divorce from Palin's sister, or sister in law, btw.

I'm just gonna enjoy watching this unravel. It's pretty clear that Palin is a vindictive type of petty politician, she should fit in quite nicely actually...if she isn't impeached for her actions first.
 
I'm sure all potential scandals were investigated thoroughly by McCain's campaign staff. This isn't the sort of problem that would wreck his campaign.
 
All the charges against Wooten were dropped (turned out they were all from Palin (surprise) except for the illegal hunting (he shot a fucking Moose in Alaska out of season) The taser incident was an accident according to the sworn public testimony, but he was suspended for 5 days for the moose incident.

The better question is, why did Palin and her husband make over 20 calls using her office as soon as she became governor demanding to know why Wooten wasn't fired? Using 14 of her staff members to place such calls And then when he wasn't fired, why was Monegan removed from office as soon as Palin became governor?

Wooten had a VERY bitter divorce from Palin's sister, or sister in law, btw.

I'm just gonna enjoy watching this unravel. It's pretty clear that Palin is a vindictive type of petty politician, she should fit in quite nicely actually...if she isn't impeached for her actions first.


Moneghan should have been dismissed and Wooten should have been dismissed way before Palin got into office. Maybe you don't mind your law enforcement personnel acting contrary to the law or as if they don't have to obey the law, but I do. Wooten was found guilty of killing the moose out of season - against the law - and using the taser on his stepson - which is at the very least careless, irresponsible and very poor judgment for an officer of the law. Moneghan reduced Wooten's 10 day sentence to 5.

I don't care for Palin for my own reasons. As anti-abortion as I am, I do not wish to return to Roe v. Wade and I am for more gun control like as in removing guns from my planet. In addition to that, Palin is a hunter for sport - also unprovoked murder and for no cause other than personal pleasure.

Again, all our candidates suck.
 
Um, I hate to break it to you, but killing a legal hunting animal out of season is a MISDEMEANOR, Alaska has similar hunting and gun laws as Vermont...not grounds for firing or dismissal.. It's a civil offense deserving at most a fine. Get real.

This is about her sister and the way she perceives he treated her. Using your office vindictively is a bigger crime that shooting a moose out of season.

It also turns out the Taser incident is one of those things that the nephew BEGGED Wooten to do to him. Fucked up as it was (and wrong) it's being painted in a different way than the actual event that took place.

We'll see how well this was vetted, and how the two investigations turn out. If they call for impeachment, there's a storm a brewing bigger than the one that God is planning for the Republican National Convention on Tuesday, I'll give you that.

What the hell is wrong with Obama anyway?
 
What the hell is wrong with Obama anyway?

Please .... what part of "I am strongly anti-abortion" don't you get?

Obama said he wants unrestricted abortion - as it is now - available for his daughters so they don't have to suffer for their "embarrassing little mistakes." No raising his girls to be morally responsible people - but murdering fucking slut bitch whores. No raising his sons to be morally responsible. Just kill the unwanted babies in this day of birth control free for the asking and the fear of AIDS so they should have been wearing a freaking condom anyway. But, these same damned people have a cow over the death penalty for someone who actually horribly murdered another human being.

What pisses me off about both the child killing Democrats and the gun nut Republicans is that Roe v. Wade is even an issue at this point in time when there are more serious problems on the table.
 
?? You have some links to that rant, right? That's not Obama's position on abortion at all.
"child killing democrats"?? Jesus.

By the way, we had all our kids, despite the fact that we were using condoms, foam, a diaphragm and the rhythm method simultaneously, so give the "effective birth control" rhetoric a rest. It doesn't exist. You make it sound like birth control is some sort of solution to unwanted pregnancies, when it isn't at all.

As long as "the system" equates morality with biology, this argument will exist. A woman's body is designed to make babies, not her brain. You've raised kids, if life = pregnancy, then you don't understand biology. Again, I'm not "right", but neither are you. The idea that you have to take all pregnancies to term simply because you get pregnant is FASCISM, plain and simple.

Let's see some links to his actual statements instead of the spin.
 
Whew. You're crazy Wheezie.

About this anyway. I've always thought of you as highly lucid and intelligent. I'm a little surprised at how knee jerk rhetorical you become by this issue.

You understand when you define a third trimester D&C as a "partial birth abortion" when it isn't at all, and the people who write the law aren't even doctors who conspire together to pass the law NOT for public health reasons, but to service their own sense of "morality", who then restrict the ability of trained, licensed professionals to do their jobs even in the cases of rape and incest, even when the life of the mother is at stake, that the issue has risen from biology to morality?

If you don't, I'm happy to have a dialogue with you about that.
 
I am strongly "anti-abortion" too, by the way. I don't adhere to the belief that women should abort pregnancies for convenience. I also don't believe in abortion as birth control.

But I certainly believe that a woman is the final arbiter of that decision, not some freaking law written by a man that dictates the decision.
 
I am strongly "anti-abortion" too, by the way. I don't adhere to the belief that women should abort pregnancies for convenience. I also don't believe in abortion as birth control.

But I certainly believe that a woman is the final arbiter of that decision, not some freaking law written by a man that dictates the decision.

I believe we have to leave the baby killing as it is to keep the POS women on this planet from lieing about their consentual sex being rape so they can get an abortion. Lots of innocent young men went to prison in the past because of that crap. Also don't want women to have to resort to back alley coat hanger butchers again either.

I also think the rapists and perpetrators of incest should be put to death along with their unwanted "mistakes." Make it a package deal. Plus, cauterize the woman's tubes so she won't be bothered with any other mistakes.

How interesting that you defend the woman's choice because you don't think she should be governed by a law written by some "man" yet I imagine that the bulk of our laws are written by "men" in particular. Further, it is interesting, as well as hypocritical, that it was "men" who gave women the choice to murder their unborn children at will.
 
Interesting how the whole piece has disappeared from the internet.

And, yes - Democrats are for unrestricted abortion - for any reason at any time.

You're wrong about that. I am a DIED IN THE WOOL Democrat, and I don't believe in "unrestricted abortion" (whatever the hell that really is) at all. That just obfuscates the truth of "your side". You want to legislate morality, and behavior societally, not "save babies".
 
Here, I'll post your link for you, since you seem to be so reticent to do that...

To prohibit, consistent with Roe v. Wade, the interference by the government with a woman's right to choose to bear a child or terminate a pregnancy, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Freedom of Choice Act'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) The United States was founded on the principles of individual liberty, personal privacy, and equality. Such principles ensure that each individual is free to make the most intimate decisions free from governmental interference and discrimination.

(2) A woman's decision to commence, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy is one of the most intimate decisions an individual ever faces. As such, reproductive health decisions are best made by the woman, in consultation with her medical provider or loved ones, without governmental interference.

(3) In 1965, in Griswold v. Connecticut (381 U.S. 479), and in 1973, in Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113) and Doe v. Bolton (410 U.S. 179), the Supreme Court recognized the right to privacy protected by the Constitution and that such right encompassed the right of every woman to weigh the personal, moral, and religious considerations involved in deciding whether to commence, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy.

(4) The Roe v. Wade decision carefully balanced the rights of women to make important reproductive decisions with the state's interest in potential life. Under Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, a woman's right to choose to terminate her pregnancy is absolute only prior to fetal viability, with the state permitted to ban abortion after fetal viability except when necessary to protect the life or health of a woman.

(5) These decisions have protected the health and lives of women in the United States. Prior to the Roe v. Wade decision, an estimated 1,200,000 women each year were forced to resort to illegal abortions, despite the known hazards that included unsanitary conditions, incompetent treatment, infection, hemorrhage, disfiguration, and death.

(6) According to one estimate, prior to 1973, as many as 5,000 women died each year in the United States as a result of having an illegal abortion.

(7) In countries where abortion remains illegal, the risk of complications and maternal mortality is high. According to the World Health Organization, of the approximately 600,000 pregnancy-related deaths occurring annually around the world, 80,000 are associated with unsafe abortions.

(8) The Roe v. Wade decision expanded the opportunities for women to participate equally in society. In 1992, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (505 U.S. 833), the Supreme Court observed that, `[t]he ability of women to participate equally in the economic and social life of the Nation has been facilitated by their ability to control their reproductive lives.'.

(9) Even though the Roe v. Wade decision guaranteed a constitutional right to choose whether to terminate or continue a pregnancy, threats to that right remain, including possible reversal or further erosion by the Supreme Court of the right, and legislative and administrative policies at all levels of government that make abortion more difficult and dangerous to obtain.

(10) 87 percent of the counties in the United States have no abortion provider.

(11) Legal barriers to the full range of reproductive services endanger the health and lives of women.

(12) Women should have meaningful access to reproductive health services to prevent unintended pregnancies, thereby reducing the need for abortions.

(13) To ensure that a woman's right to choose whether to terminate a pregnancy is available to all women in the United States, Federal protection for that right is necessary.

(14) Although Congress may not create constitutional rights without amending the Constitution, Congress may, where authorized by its enumerated powers and not prohibited by the Constitution, enact legislation to create and secure statutory rights in areas of legitimate national concern.

(15) Congress has the affirmative power under section 8 of article I of the Constitution and section 5 of the 14th amendment to the Constitution to enact legislation to facilitate interstate commerce and to prevent State interference with interstate commerce, liberty, or equal protection of the laws.

(16) Federal protection of a woman's right to choose to prevent or terminate a pregnancy falls within this affirmative power of Congress, in part, because--

(A) many women cross State lines to obtain abortions and many more would be forced to do so absent a constitutional right or Federal protection;

(B) reproductive health clinics are commercial actors that regularly purchase medicine, medical equipment, and other necessary supplies from out-of-State suppliers; and

(C) reproductive health clinics employ doctors, nurses, and other personnel who travel across State lines in order to provide reproductive health services to patients.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) GOVERNMENT- The term `government' includes a branch, department, agency, instrumentality, or official (or other individual acting under color of law) of the United States, a State, or a subdivision of a State.

(2) STATE- The term `State' means each of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and each territory or possession of the United States.

(3) VIABILITY- The term `viability' means that stage of pregnancy when, in the best medical judgment of the attending physician based on the particular medical facts of the case before the physician, there is a reasonable likelihood of the sustained survival of the fetus outside of the woman.

SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.

(a) STATEMENT OF POLICY- It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.

(b) PROHIBITION OF INTERFERENCE- A government may not--

(1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--

(A) to bear a child;

(B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or

(C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or

(2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.

(c) CIVIL ACTION- An individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may obtain appropriate relief (including relief against a government) in a civil action.

SEC. 5. SEVERABILITY.

If any provision of this Act, or the application of such provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be unconstitutional, the remainder of this Act, or the application of such provision to persons or circumstances other than those as to which the provision is held to be unconstitutional, shall not be affected thereby.

SEC. 6. RETROACTIVE EFFECT.

This Act applies to every Federal, State, and local statute, ordinance, regulation, administrative order, decision, policy, practice, or other action enacted, adopted, or implemented before, on, or after the date of enactment of this Act.
 
Please read it...it talks about government interference, not "unrestricted abortion".

Tone down the rhetoric just a bit, and you'll see what I'm talking about. Get government out of the decision making process, period. Hell, it's easier to get heroin or crack cocaine, or kill a fully grown person (and get away with it) than it is to have an abortion.
 
I believe we have to leave the baby killing as it is to keep the POS women on this planet from lieing about their consentual sex being rape so they can get an abortion. Lots of innocent young men went to prison in the past because of that crap. Also don't want women to have to resort to back alley coat hanger butchers again either.

I also think the rapists and perpetrators of incest should be put to death along with their unwanted "mistakes." Make it a package deal. Plus, cauterize the woman's tubes so she won't be bothered with any other mistakes.

How interesting that you defend the woman's choice because you don't think she should be governed by a law written by some "man" yet I imagine that the bulk of our laws are written by "men" in particular. Further, it is interesting, as well as hypocritical, that it was "men" who gave women the choice to murder their unborn children at will.

When did you become ignorant?

Just over this issue it would appear.

I'm not disrespecting your opinion either Wheezie, but you're pretty far to the right on this issue. Women don't "lie that they were raped" to get an abortion. And you're wrong again when you say the bulk of our laws are probably written by men.

Just these, really. By narrow minded men who think women are liars about their consensual sex and should be punished against their will for their morality and behavior.
 
I think I'd agree with you a little more, or give your opinion more weight if you were for making sure that every woman of childbearing ability (whatever her age) were given tools to prevent pregnancy other than abstinence.

You know, sex education and safe and private access to birth control that works.
 
You do disrespect my opinion. I'm not way over to the right. I just know people who have murdered their unborn children because it was inconvenient for them to be pregnant. I know a woman who has had four abortions because the pregnancies were inconvenient but she didn't want to use other forms of birth control because of weight issues or they were not spontaneous. She also liked the way she looked when she was pregnant - she just didn't want the baby.

I think you will find if you look into the statistics, the reasons for abortion are higher because the pregnancy is an inconvenience and are very low because of rape, incest, or failure of practiced birth control.

And yes, in the pre Roe v. Wade days, women did lie and say a man raped them so they could get a legal abortion. Women still lie about being raped for various reasons. One of the things that makes that so heinous is that a woman who is actually raped is undermined in obtaining justice because of the lieing POS women who cry rape when in fact it was not, and men who think that when a woman says no she means yes or that it is okay to force sex on her because he is a GD man, or he is in no way responsible for the outcome and should use protection of his own because she can just have an abortion if it is an embarassing mistake.

I am all for birth control education and use of birth control. Not only by the women but by the men as well. Mothers and fathers should teach their sons to use a condom. In this day and age why anyone is having casual sex without a condom is beyond me. If I know about AIDS, everyone not living in a cave in the mountain ranges surrounding Pakistan should know about AIDS. My best friend didn't want more children after their second child so HE had a vasectomy. That is called taking responsibility for one's actions.

And, people do have private access to sex education and safe and private access to birth control that works. Planned Parenthood receives 1/3 of its funding from taxpayer money. While they provide education and birth control - including vasectomies, they performed 289,750 abortions and referred 2,410 adoption cases in 2007.

You may think it is just an objection to the morality of other people. No - it is about the respect for living beings. These jerkwads that murder their babies now because they are an "embarassing mistake" - an inconvenience - are the same murderous individuals that will be in charge of the world when I am old. What if I can not live without some type of "life support" device - you know the argument that the woman's body is just a life support device, right? These bastards can just come in and kill me because I'm inconvenient. The state could not protect me. Taxpayer money may even be used to support those who would kill me but deny taxpayer money to keep me alive. Why? Because they have no respect for life.

On top of all that, Obama voted three times against the Born Alive legislation that provides that when a child survives an abortion attempt the medical personnel that had been trying to kill the child have to switch to trying to save the child's life instead of just leaving it to die - as is now the common practice. He is a cold-blooded bastard.
 
I most certainly DO NOT disrespect your opinion. Disagreement isn't disrespect. Yow.

Where do you keep getting this "embarrassing mistake" rhetoric? I thank God when my wife had a molar pregnancy and was so sick she nearly died that she could make the legal choice to have an abortion, and not "prove it was a medical necessity" before she became so sick from it that she nearly died. God, it was horrible. By the way, after that "abortion" which is exactly what it was, she nearly bled to death from complications involving the clot blocking her uterus incorrectly. If she'd been under the gun of the kind of rhetoric you are proposing here, she could have bled to death.

Don't think for a minute that most women don't think this through very carefully before making a decision, or for that matter, suffer the emotional consequences of their actions for years afterward. Any woman who would conveniently abort a pregnancy just for for her looks is a murderer, and I agree with you there.

I'm a proponent of a woman's right to choose, because I know first hand that a responsible woman will make the right choice. I have three living beautiful children that support that idea.I can't speak for idiots who think of convenience when making a deeply private moral decision, but I'll tell you that I'm grateful that in this country, women have the right to choose.

From painful personal experience.
 
Call it what you will but you said I was stupid and crazy because my feelings about abortion are different than yours. The odd thing is, we basically agree. You claim you believe that women only make the choice to kill their unborn for medical emergencies or some other type of tragedy. I wish that were true. And mabye from your personal experience you believe all women are that way. But, women can be nasty creatures, just like men.

After 35 plus years of this argument, though, I know that them that will kill will kill no matter what I think or say. I know that they will fight me to my death to keep their right to kill their unborn. Those same people will cry that it is wrong to put to death people who were allowed to be born who killed other people who were allowed to be born. Those same people will demand I be put to death if I am ever unfortunate to be on a life support device and unable to speak for myself.

Sadly, people have throughout the history of mankind murdered their children for various reasons. While people are better now at murdering children before they are born, people certainly haven't evolved one little bit in respect for the right to life for others.
 
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