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The Dark Knight

Finally saw it again, made it to the theater in time to catch the Watchmen trailer this time (gonna be a long wait til March!). Bale's "Batman voice" is my only real complaint at this point. It kinda bugged me that the cop based on Montoya turned out to be dirty, but I guess that's why they changed her name to Ramirez, eh?
 
"Madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push."

That was very profound, as it was the case with most "thought-provoking" lines from the flick. Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions, take this !
 
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I want to disagree that the original Keaton Batman movies had nothing intellectual about them. I'd also like to state that the Dark Knight was an intellectual whoregasm. They threw in a TON of intellectual mumbo-jumbo to get the nerds all riled up. Also, they threw in the tortued figure of Joker to lure in the H.I.M.-listening crowd. Finally, they had just enough simplistic action to get most Americans drooling... and voila! A comic movie masterpiece.

I'm still 50/50 like/dislike on this one.
 
I enjoyed Keaton's Batman films, as they were darker than Kilmer and Clooney's sad go at the franchise. Jack's Joker was there for comedic purposes, so people didn't realize just what fucked up shit they were watching from Burton.

OTH, The Dark Knight is in a class unto itself.
 
Tisiphone said:
I enjoyed Keaton's Batman films, as they were darker than Kilmer and Clooney's sad go at the franchise. Jack's Joker was there for comedic purposes, so people didn't realize just what fucked up shit they were watching from Burton.

OTH, The Dark Knight is in a class unto itself.
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Keaton also managed to nail Batman's wit. Something Bale keeps missing.
 
^Yeah, as much as I love Bale, he's a too serious. Keaton managed to be ironic about who he was, while Bale has yet to do that.
 
I think Bale does a good job of potraying a fledging Batman who's still learning. He still made mistakes, and it even accounts for the "Batman voice".
 
Conchaga said:
Keaton also managed to nail Batman's wit. Something Bale keeps missing.
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That was something I really enjoyed about Keaton's performance, as well -- and somehow, without doing the "Batman voice" trick, he was able to convincingly portray two different personalities within the same character. While Bale's second place in that is certainly far and away better than Kilmer's or Clooney's sad efforts, it's still itself a distant second.

On the other hand, Michael Caine as Alfred is dead on bullseye perfect.
 
I'm going to blow some minds here: I love BOTH Batman 89 and Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

That said, I prefer the Nolan films, esp. Batman Begins, as they put Batman's character front and center.

Overall, I think the Nolan films are better, though I'd like a little more "comic book" and a little less "ultra-realism."
 
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