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What is the allure of marijuana?

Heathen said:
It was a sarcastic comment, I am in no way special or exceptional, I just do beleive that marijuana has impaired my judgement, and caused my apathy to grow to immense proportions. I should be in class right now, or at least writing some of those week old papers I haven't started, but I just don't care, and I do beleive that smoking did help to make me this way.

Jack disagreed with this, so I jokingly stated that I must be special because smoking has affected my life negatively, and even though I acknowledge this I don't plan to stop.
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That's the most common adverse effect of chronic smoking I've seen -- loss of motivation, couples with serious short-term and occasionally long-term memory impairment.

And of course there's a percentage of people who aren't going to suffer those effects, just like there are octagenarians who've been smoking cigarettes since they were 10 years old (or what have you) and have never had so much as a faint wheeze. But just because people sometimes beat the odds, that doesn't throw the odds out the window. The fact is that marijuana alters your cognitive functions, and anything that alters your cognitive functions as drastically as marijuana does is probably not good for you in large doses over an extended period of time.

For example, according to this abstract published by the Lund University Hospital Division of Medical Neurochemistry, long-term cannabis use can result in reduced hemispheric blood flow and functionality in the frontal lobes of the brain.
 
All I can say is that non smokers selling the evils of weed to potheads its like going into a bar with a MADD shirt on.

I'm neither impressed nor inclined to change my evil ways. I recomend taking a puff every so often for a bit of first hand experience.
 
You're going to hell, Prote. They smoke stuff down there, too. I'm going for an unrelated reason. All the bad things I like to do are encouraged there, as well.

Perhaps we can do lunch someday. Menty's buying.
 
The Question said:
This study examined the neurophysiological effects of cannabis. Cerebral blood flow (CBF) was measured in 12 long-term cannabis users shortly after cessation of cannabis use (mean 1.6 days). The findings showed significantly lower mean hemispheric blood flow values and significantly lower frontal values in the cannabis subjects compared to normal controls. The results suggest that the functional level of the frontal lobes is affected by long-term cannabis use.
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That's the study TQ linked up der. It seems that the CBF lowered when long term users stopped smokin'. Which is natural. Your body is quite adaptable, and in time will adapt to a foriegn substance. So when you remove the long-adapted foriegn substance, naturally shit gets a little fucked up.

My point is that any study done on an illegal substance is bound to back the law. The doctors, even hoping to remain neutral, will favor a subconcious bias.

From, "A Natural Mind" by Dr. Andrew Weil

Unconscious biases act like filters between our perceptions and our intellects. They enable us to screen out observations that do not fit in with our preconceived notions and to see causal relationships where none exist. Worst of all, they blind us to their own presence so that we are quick to defend our erroneous hypotheses with shouts of "I saw it with my own eyes!"

Everyone here has direct experience with stoners. People who don't smoke don't know the intelligent stoners on a personal level because pot is illegal, and the less people who know, the better. You non-smokers may have smoker friends who kick ass at life but would never tell you that they smoke because some of you non-smokers are uptight about it. Hell, you might narc!

Consider how many "unknown" smokers are out there before you post, "how many out of a 100..." type shtuff. Oh wait, too late.
 
My nickel's worth, which is not scientific but from personal observation.

I used to smoke marijuana - several decades ago when it was much cheaper and I wasn't subject to drug testing at the drop of a hat. I enjoyed it - everything was funny, food tasted great.

My first ex has been smoking marijuana for 30+ years - everyday. He is on his 5th or 6th wife, he doesn't remember either; has a bunch of kids, mostly with people he wasn't married to, he hasn't supported any of them, and none of them call him dad; he doesn't have many job skills and can't hold a job for more than a few months at a time; if he wasn't married to the woman he is married to now he wouldn't have a place to live; for a long time he made his living stealing the electronic equipment of people he called his friends so he doesn't have many friends now. He isn't even 50 years old yet and he's been washed up for about 3 decades.

On the other hand, I know bi-polar people who do not respond well to the meds currently prescribed but they do respond well to marijuana as it raises their lithium levels.

Marijuana is just like most things - it isn't all bad and it isn't all good.
 
I guess when comparing a deadbeat pot smoker and responsible, moderate, active, and successful pot smoker you have to remove the common traits between them.

The both have feet? Check.

They both do stuff, like, breath and shit and stuff? Check.

The both smoke pot? Check.

One is a asshole loser fuckhead and one is productive member of society? Whoa, looks like we found out what made this one a loser fuckhead. He's... a loser fuckhead.

Meh... after typing that out it looks kinda crass. I don't mean any disrespect to deadbeat loser fuckheads.
 
It's real simple, up until the first time I actually got high, I had a different attitude about things. Like I believed all the bullshit lies I was spoonfed daily, lies about stuff that was just to control me, so I wouldn't make my own choices about things. One of the first "revelations" I had as a result of being stoned was how fucking lied to we really are.

I just don't get the fucking holier than thou crap from non users. It's more than ignorant.
 
The Question said:
"Heavy Machinery", in this case, would be anyone over 200 lbs. FAT STONERS STAY HOME!!! FAT STONERS STAY HOME!!!
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What's that supposed to mean asshole?!?!
 
The allure of marijuana is that you are flyin' free & that you just don't give a fuck about the horrible real world!!
 
Ishcabittle said:
I guess when comparing a deadbeat pot smoker and responsible, moderate, active, and successful pot smoker you have to remove the common traits between them.

The both have feet? Check.

They both do stuff, like, breath and shit and stuff? Check.

The both smoke pot? Check.

One is a asshole loser fuckhead and one is productive member of society? Whoa, looks like we found out what made this one a loser fuckhead. He's... a loser fuckhead.

Meh... after typing that out it looks kinda crass. I don't mean any disrespect to deadbeat loser fuckheads.
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But, there is some truth to that. There are people out there that are "deadbeat losers" and they aren't alcoholics or drug users.

And, something else to think about, not everybody is geared to be happy living what might be considered the norm of our current society - debt strapped to houses, cars, credit cards, college education. My brother-in-law is geared to go to work welding bits of metal together all day, stop off at the gas station where all his friends meet and play checkers, drink beer, and talk for a couple of hours before going home to dinner and an evening with the wife and kids. On the weekends, he likes to drink even more beer and he fixes things around the house and mows the yard. Every couple of years he likes to take a big vacation and go home up north to visit his family around the holidays, drink vast quantities of beer, and maybe do some deer hunting. His life is no less productive than a "successful" person who still doesn't contribute anymore to the planet or the history of the world than any other consumer.
 
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