Who was worse? Adolf Hitler or George S. Patton

[Red Whacker]

Why are others concerned with how Americans mind their own darn American business?

Because they don't mind their own American business.

And while you're copy/pasting will you hurry up with that graph please.

 

[Tyrant]

Because they don't mind their own American business.

No, TQ was criticized as a 'typical ignorant American' for emphasizing just that.

And while you're copy/pasting will you hurry up with that graph please.

I'm not copying and pasting anything. What 'graph' ?

 

[headvoid]

In related news America are to stop trading contact with the rest of the world and rely purely on their own resources. It's part of the "mind their own business" policy.

 

[Red Whacker]

No, TQ was criticized as a 'typical ignorant American' for emphasizing just that.

Understood, just next time stay on topic.

What 'graph' ?

Of Irelands multicultural population.

 

[Cranky Bastard]

In related news America are to stop trading contact with the rest of the world and rely purely on their own resources. It's part of the "mind their own business" policy.

Sounds good to me. I'm tired of my tax dollars supporting every fucking beggar out there.

Let "enlightened" Europe step up to the plate.

 

[Tyrant]

In related news America are to stop trading contact with the rest of the world and rely purely on their own resources. It's part of the "mind their own business" policy.

I don't think that's a real news report. Do you have any links/sources?

 

[Tyrant]

Understood, just next time stay on topic.

Of Irelands multicultural population.

What?

 

[Red Whacker]

What?

Is it that time again?

 

[Tyrant]

Is it that time again?

What?

 

[The Question]

Huh?

 

[Tyrant]

Damn. I guess importing foreign oil or enjoying Chinese food means you have to let every single ethnicity under the sun flood into your country to the point where the demographics are changed. Quite the conundrum.

 

[headvoid]

Since multiculturalism is de facto multiracialism it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.

Damn. I guess importing foreign oil or enjoying Chinese food means you have to let every single ethnicity under the sun flood into your country to the point where the demographics are changed.

You are the one stating that Multiculturalism is Multiracism. Or is all your multicultural food prepared by Americans?

 

[The Question]

Culture is defined by more than food. Maybe that's too obvious a fact to let go unstated.

 

[Tyrant]

You are the one stating that Multiculturalism is Multiracism.

No. I am the one stating that Multiculturalism is de facto Multiracialism.

Or is all your multicultural food prepared by Americans?

I'm not sure what this is meant to signify. Or?

Please clarify.

 

[headvoid]

Honestly?

I am really trying to understand how someone can link living in a modern world with being in an exclusive racial group. There are two very bright posters in particular on the forum who see it as a model they wish to pursue. I am genuinely perplexed and need to understand it.

Almost everything I read, see, eat, consume, use comes from a variety of races, cultures, countries. It is all so intertwined that it is impossible for me to separate. I live in a small WASP dominated town but it is made richer by Asian, European, Eastern, South American etc. people. I live very near a fantastic large city which has a larger Pakistani population than UK - So I understand radical changing balances in demographics

If I am being obtuse then I apologise. I am just trying to understand this view point.

 

[Cranky Bastard]

Productive interaction between cultures does not necessitate an absence of racism.

 

[The Question]

I live in a small WASP dominated town but it is made richer by Asian, European, Eastern, South American etc. people.

Can you give reasons why these people make the town richer? Or do you believe this simply because it's the prevailing conventional wisdom?

Also, there's truth to the phrase, "United, we stand; divided, we fall." Cultural homogeneity creates communities united by common ethical standards. Multiculturalism diminishes unity under all but the most extreme circumstances.

 

[Cranky Bastard]

Yep. Multi-culturalism encourages diversity which is antithetical to unity.

 

[headvoid]

Can you give reasons why these people make the town richer? Or do you believe this simply because it's the prevailing conventional wisdom?

Also, there's truth to the phrase, "United, we stand; divided, we fall." Cultural homogeneity creates communities united by common ethical standards. Multiculturalism diminishes unity under all but the most extreme circumstances.

They drive the taxis! Nah, just joking.

There are a bunch of people from Peru, some educated, some not - admittedly I know a couple of the educated Peruvians and one Argentinian - They enrich my life because they have introduced me to food, drink and a wierd taste in music that I would not have understood. They are racially different from me, but we hold very similar values. I dont really have any Pakistani aquaintances as they have a very different lifestyle and belief system. A local Indian guy is extremely western and has also enriched my life. A friend of mine goes out with a Chinese girl and she is a lot of fun.

So, in summary I have a group of people in the community who have similar values (not necessarily belief systems) and have taken on many british characteristics. They enrich my life - the ones that have created an enclave or pure system apart (particularly the pakistani community) do not enrich my life but provide services to the community.

So this:

Multiculturalism diminishes unity under all but the most extreme circumstances.

I disagree with from personal experience.

 

[Tyrant]

Honestly?

I am really trying to understand how someone can link living in a modern world with being in an exclusive racial group. There are two very bright posters in particular on the forum who see it as a model they wish to pursue. I am genuinely perplexed and need to understand it.

Almost everything I read, see, eat, consume, use comes from a variety of races, cultures, countries. It is all so intertwined that it is impossible for me to separate. I live in a small WASP dominated town but it is made richer by Asian, European, Eastern, South American etc. people. I live very near a fantastic large city which has a larger Pakistani population than UK - So I understand radical changing balances in demographics

There are a lot of issues here which are unnecessarily intertwined.

I don't link living in a modern world with belonging to a particular race. I may have misunderstood that statement anyhow.

Maybe a question I can pose in turn might be: Why is living in a modern world linked with multiculturalism, when places like China or Japan can enjoy a variety of innovations that come from different races and countries and yet remain almost completely homogeneous in terms of racial and cultural demographics?

Is food the only saving grace of multiculturalism, with the baggage being racial and religious tension and strife, then really, why is it defended so vigorously? Probably because any alternative towards it is portrayed as being hateful. I was, after all, assumed to be a supremacist after offering a similar opportunity for understanding.

Immigration is going to be discussed sooner or later so I've steered clear of that. Discussions like this inevitably boil into a clusterfuck. But we do have some degree of control if we acknowledge that.

If you are honestly interested and wish to understand the POV, you can read some stuff. Again, not believe it, just read it.

http://www.whitenationalism.com/ls/index.htm

It's complicated and long, and I don't swear by it, but it might save people the trouble of asking "So do you really want to exterminate Jews?" or something.