I can't take this rural midwest shit.

Starship Coyote

Original Gangster!
Now, on the flip side of what I said above: There's also a way lower beaner count here, particularly compared to Arizona. Up side to that is, lower levels of legal labor displacement and wage contraction. Down side... no good Mexican restaurants. The roommate, when he landed in Waterloo (never name a fucking town after Abba shit, Jayzus...) said he bought an "Iowa taco." With potato in it (that's not so bad) and corn. Jesus fucking Christ, can we keep Radar O'Reilly out of the fucking taquerias, please?

Yeah, that sounds kinda sketchy.
 

Colonel Kira's Left Tit

Bearded Belly of Bajor
The entirety of Iowa is like a bad Hee-Haw convention. But that being said....


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The Question

Eternal
The entirety of Iowa is like a bad Hee-Haw convention.

Worse. At least the south has character -- now whether you consider it to be good character or bad character, that's a matter of personal taste, I guess. But the midwest... holy shit, I've never anywhere else seen such bland people. It's like fucking Diet Canada or some shit.
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
Yeah, but you live in SoCal. So a shoe-box full of cat poop for $7,500 a month (plus utilities) would look reasonable to you. ;)
 

Oerdin

Active Member
A neighbor three houses down got an estimate that his house was worth $868,000 and they listed it starting today at $1.1million. I get it that if you don’t ask you don’t get and that the housing market is insane right now but simply pretending your house is worth a quarter million dollars more than the appraisal probably won’t work. Then again another house in our subdivision (300 square feet smaller than the first one) got appraised at $1.05 million so what do I know?
 

Colonel Kira's Left Tit

Bearded Belly of Bajor
A neighbor three houses down got an estimate that his house was worth $868,000 and they listed it starting today at $1.1million. I get it that if you don’t ask you don’t get and that the housing market is insane right now but simply pretending your house is worth a quarter million dollars more than the appraisal probably won’t work. Then again another house in our subdivision (300 square feet smaller than the first one) got appraised at $1.05 million so what do I know?

People will pay what they wanna pay. No harm in highballing it a little.
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
A neighbor three houses down got an estimate that his house was worth $868,000 and they listed it starting today at $1.1million. I get it that if you don’t ask you don’t get and that the housing market is insane right now but simply pretending your house is worth a quarter million dollars more than the appraisal probably won’t work. Then again another house in our subdivision (300 square feet smaller than the first one) got appraised at $1.05 million so what do I know?
When I sold my house in Portland, I went on the low side of the appraisal, which led to a feeding frenzy of multiple offers and wound up accepting an offer that was 7% above asking price. Obviously I don't know about the San Diego market. In Louisville back in August, you might've been able to get away with that kind of mark-up--it was crazy here--but things started cooling off a month or two ago. House down the block from me that had been vacant for years got a sign out front but it wasn't listed. The next morning it still hadn't been listed so I called the number. Price was about 40% above what I was willing to pay but within 24 hours there was a "PENDING" sign on it. A few weeks ago the "PENDING" sign went away. Occasionally I'll see cars in the driveway but not often.

My preference for selling a house is to price just a little low so buyers *know* I'll get an offer at the asking price--probably within hours--so someone will come up with a price higher than what I could've asked for it. Price too high and people feel like they've got to think about it and like there's no rush to make an offer. And once it sits more than a few weeks it has the stink of being undesirable. That's my take on pricing. Of course I'm no Donald Trump (or any other real estate magnate) so take my limited experience with a grain of salt.

PS: I had a hard time doing the numbers in this post because I bought the Portland house in 2010 for a little more than 1/3 of what it sold for in 2017. And I've been living in Louisville for 3 years, so I can't get my brain around that a 800sf cottage with 7' ceilings would go for what it wound up selling for. In 2017 you literally could've bought 2 houses that were twice as big and closer to downtown for what my Portland house sold for.
 

Starship Coyote

Original Gangster!

Oerdin

Active Member
When I sold my house in Portland, I went on the low side of the appraisal, which led to a feeding frenzy of multiple offers and wound up accepting an offer that was 7% above asking price. Obviously I don't know about the San Diego market. In Louisville back in August, you might've been able to get away with that kind of mark-up--it was crazy here--but things started cooling off a month or two ago. House down the block from me that had been vacant for years got a sign out front but it wasn't listed. The next morning it still hadn't been listed so I called the number. Price was about 40% above what I was willing to pay but within 24 hours there was a "PENDING" sign on it. A few weeks ago the "PENDING" sign went away. Occasionally I'll see cars in the driveway but not often.

My preference for selling a house is to price just a little low so buyers *know* I'll get an offer at the asking price--probably within hours--so someone will come up with a price higher than what I could've asked for it. Price too high and people feel like they've got to think about it and like there's no rush to make an offer. And once it sits more than a few weeks it has the stink of being undesirable. That's my take on pricing. Of course I'm no Donald Trump (or any other real estate magnate) so take my limited experience with a grain of salt.

PS: I had a hard time doing the numbers in this post because I bought the Portland house in 2010 for a little more than 1/3 of what it sold for in 2017. And I've been living in Louisville for 3 years, so I can't get my brain around that a 800sf cottage with 7' ceilings would go for what it wound up selling for. In 2017 you literally could've bought 2 houses that were twice as big and closer to downtown for what my Portland house sold for.

How has Louisville been with the riots?
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
I can't really say. I live in kind of the Louisville equivalent of Temeculah--blue collar working class people who just want to make ends meet. Work at UPS or Ford or GE Appliance. Lot of 3/1 1000sf brick ranches with detached 2 car garages. There's a picture on my old phone of someone riding a horse on the street and there's a hobby farm with a pair of cattle in walking distance of me. Lots of auto shops and more than a few car dealerships. Say 35% black, 45% white, 10% Mexican. It's totally a non-event here. The only impact its had for me is the liquor store next to the Kroger closed early yesterday because of the curfew so I had to go to a different liquor store and wound up having to buy the Wild Turkey 101 instead of the regular stuff.

Breonna Taylor happened back in March. And it was a total non-event. People were pissed, and it was on the local news, but that was it. It wasn't until the George Floyd riots in Minneapolis that anything happened here. And at the time they were caught totally flat-footed. There's a dog park in the...say the...not really La Jolla--the kind of hip funky upscale outskirt of downtown, where the bars and the young people go. I just skipped going downtown when the riots were happening. When I finally came back a couple months ago I was shocked by how many windows had been boarded up. Who destroys the comic book shop or the mom & pop pizzeria in the name of social justice? But lately things have been quiet.

When the announcement was set to drop they quietly boarded up all the first floor windows on the courthouse and closed down most government offices. I've been doing census work and they told us to go home. Next day I had addresses in the "War Zone"--the redline neighborhood where poor black people live and you can buy a house for $20,000; where most of the city's murders happen. But I went in and met some nice people, felt very safe and got some work done. I brought my dog and left her in the car with the windows down and didn't have any problems (I did mostly keep the car parked within eyesight of where I was working but still...) So imagine my surprise when my supervisor texted me and told me to go home because we weren't going to be working Thursday either.

Anyway, for the downtown area where the protestors are converging, they came in heavy this time--curfews right off the bat, closing government offices and boarding them up, heavy National Guard presence. A couple cops got shot...Wednesday night? But they're going to be OK and they arrested a shit-ton of people for rioting and being out after curfew so it seems mostly quiet. I'm actually supposed to be heading out for The Dog's Sunday Afternoon patrol and I'm debating if I want to go downtown or just go out to the lake in the Jefferson Memorial Forest instead. It has been an eye-opener, how liberal that neighborhood is, compared to out where I am. BLM signs everywhere. Although the cynic in me feels like some of the ones in storefronts actually say "please don't burn down my business".
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
Awesome update.
 

Oerdin

Active Member
I can't really say. I live in kind of the Louisville equivalent of Temeculah--blue collar working class people who just want to make ends meet. Work at UPS or Ford or GE Appliance. Lot of 3/1 1000sf brick ranches with detached 2 car garages. There's a picture on my old phone of someone riding a horse on the street and there's a hobby farm with a pair of cattle in walking distance of me. Lots of auto shops and more than a few car dealerships. Say 35% black, 45% white, 10% Mexican. It's totally a non-event here. The only impact its had for me is the liquor store next to the Kroger closed early yesterday because of the curfew so I had to go to a different liquor store and wound up having to buy the Wild Turkey 101 instead of the regular stuff.

Breonna Taylor happened back in March. And it was a total non-event. People were pissed, and it was on the local news, but that was it. It wasn't until the George Floyd riots in Minneapolis that anything happened here. And at the time they were caught totally flat-footed. There's a dog park in the...say the...not really La Jolla--the kind of hip funky upscale outskirt of downtown, where the bars and the young people go. I just skipped going downtown when the riots were happening. When I finally came back a couple months ago I was shocked by how many windows had been boarded up. Who destroys the comic book shop or the mom & pop pizzeria in the name of social justice? But lately things have been quiet.

When the announcement was set to drop they quietly boarded up all the first floor windows on the courthouse and closed down most government offices. I've been doing census work and they told us to go home. Next day I had addresses in the "War Zone"--the redline neighborhood where poor black people live and you can buy a house for $20,000; where most of the city's murders happen. But I went in and met some nice people, felt very safe and got some work done. I brought my dog and left her in the car with the windows down and didn't have any problems (I did mostly keep the car parked within eyesight of where I was working but still...) So imagine my surprise when my supervisor texted me and told me to go home because we weren't going to be working Thursday either.

Anyway, for the downtown area where the protestors are converging, they came in heavy this time--curfews right off the bat, closing government offices and boarding them up, heavy National Guard presence. A couple cops got shot...Wednesday night? But they're going to be OK and they arrested a shit-ton of people for rioting and being out after curfew so it seems mostly quiet. I'm actually supposed to be heading out for The Dog's Sunday Afternoon patrol and I'm debating if I want to go downtown or just go out to the lake in the Jefferson Memorial Forest instead. It has been an eye-opener, how liberal that neighborhood is, compared to out where I am. BLM signs everywhere. Although the cynic in me feels like some of the ones in storefronts actually say "please don't burn down my business".

I know in the SF Bay Area, Portland, and Seattle they have BLM/Antifa thugs show up at businesses demanding they put their propaganda signs in the front window. Anyone who says no gets their windows busted out. That is the type of criminality we are dealing with. They also love to run protection rackets where businesses have to pay money to them to insure they do not burn the business down.
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
Well since I helped hopelessly derail this thread, maybe I can help get it back on track. Grew up in the rural midwest. Basically 3 little towns, clustered together with an even smaller town in between. At the end of 4th grade, Dad retired and we moved to a farmhouse a retiring farmer sold, smack dab between the towns. Each was about 10 miles away--with the little town only 5 miles away. All this was in NW Wisconsin, about 90 miles NE of the Twin Cities, so in the summer the tourists from Minneapolis would come on the weekends.

Anyway, in those days I would refer to the largest of the 3 towns when saying where I came from. It had a little less than 2,000 people but it did have a Dairy Queen that was open in the summer time. At some point, someone wanted to put a McDonald's there, but the town Movers and Shakers decided that would take away business from the mom & pop restaurants so they killed it. So one of the other 2 towns got it and because by the 1980s, humans had developed an invention called "cars," people just drove to the next town to get McDonalds (which beat driving 30 miles to the marginally bigger town that had a McDonald's) and the mom & pop restaurants lost business but the city didn't even get any of the tax money from having a McDonald's. Now it's a town around 2,000 that has 1 shitty hardware store, 1 shitty grocery store, a couple restaurants, some gas stations and a few car dealerships, a few banks, and at least 6 bars that I can think of, off the top of my head.

All these little towns are hollowed out. The town I was in until 5th grade, when I was little it had 2 grocery stores, a meat locker, a hardware store, and a few other things. Now I don't know what it has. A few churches, a post office, 3-4 bars and maybe a gas station. The shitty little town, when I was little it had a church, a car dealership/farm implement dealership/gas station, a cheese factory, and a bar. Only thing that's left is the cheese factory. The only one that is (relatively) booming is the one where I went to high school. When I was a kid they got a Dairy Queen that was open year-round. They added a McDonald's, expanded one grocery store into what you could almost call a supermarket, and--most importantly--got an Indian casino.
 

The Question

Eternal
Who destroys the comic book shop or the mom & pop pizzeria in the name of social justice?

Nobody. Nobody does that, except criminals who would've done the same thing anyway, latching onto an excuse. It's just Typical cupcakeer Behavior with an excuse.
 

The Question

Eternal
I know in the SF Bay Area, Portland, and Seattle they have BLM/Antifa thugs show up at businesses demanding they put their propaganda signs in the front window. Anyone who says no gets their windows busted out.

The time for that shit is winding down. Those thugs are going to start running into people who will blow their brains out, on the regular. The culture war is about to become a civil war, and plenty of blood is gonna get spilled on both sides, but the side that's held off longer is gonna spill more once we get started. We've been nice. We've been tolerant. We've been patient. But once we unleash, anybody who is still neutral had best find a basement or a storm shelter to hide in, because we won't stop until Commies are burning their own Che t-shirts just to have a shot at survival.
 
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