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Doctor Who Series 7: There Will Be Daleks
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CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
Maybe we'll finally see the dolphins.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Jenna-Louise Coleman (27)!
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
That was good fun!
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
Seems like it would've been a perfect story for the 50th anniversary. Ok, you'd still have trouble explaining away age differences if you brought back anyone from the older series, but the "recent history" caveat would mean you wouldn't have to have them in it. This plot device would've been fine for bringing back Tennant, Barrowman and so on. Having Christopher Eccleston's (really quiet) voice just exemplified that.
Anyway, pretty good ep. Always cool to see the TARDIS interiors and once the monsters were explained I was glad they were in it. Up until then it'd kind of seemed like they were just generic monsters because someone thought it was a Doctor Who episode and therefore HAD to have monsters of some sort. Only thing I didn't really get was the ending, aside from it being a reset button... what was that grenade thing and where did it come from originally?
Nice try at fleshing out the new characters, but I didn't find them very interesting. And it was a bit awkward having a story where an old white guy has his home ransacked by a gang of black guys.
Yay, swimming pool!
Anyway, pretty good ep. Always cool to see the TARDIS interiors and once the monsters were explained I was glad they were in it. Up until then it'd kind of seemed like they were just generic monsters because someone thought it was a Doctor Who episode and therefore HAD to have monsters of some sort. Only thing I didn't really get was the ending, aside from it being a reset button... what was that grenade thing and where did it come from originally?
Nice try at fleshing out the new characters, but I didn't find them very interesting. And it was a bit awkward having a story where an old white guy has his home ransacked by a gang of black guys.
Yay, swimming pool!
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
That was the control for the magnetic-grabby thing the salvagers used. The Doctor picks it up on their ship (when he notes how illegal it is).
In one version of the time loop, The Doctor throws it into the past but only Clara notices and picks it up and gets her hand burnt, but then she ignores it. In the version we see, The Doctor goes through himself to make sure his past self would notice it and the message on it. The the past-Doctor uses it to turn of the magnetic-thing-grabber and reset the timeline.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
It was good fun while it was going on, but reset button episodes of anything are always going to have a "well, what was the point?" feeling at the end. When the two brothers died I thought "well time's going to be reset at the end because they wouldn't just kill them after that character development."
It was a well executed story but would have been better with Kelsey Grammar at the end.
It was a well executed story but would have been better with Kelsey Grammar at the end.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
Oh, was their dad not the photo before? I never noticed that...
Also I didn't get why the Doctor landed outside the TARDIS when it first appeared on the scalvage ship.
Also I didn't get why the Doctor landed outside the TARDIS when it first appeared on the scalvage ship.
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
I didn't understand that, or how he got up unharmed and without making enough of a racket that he'd be unable to comedically appear next to the blokes without them noticing.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
GOOD EPISODE THOUGH I liked it when he was touching Clara's face and her nose is a little triangle. (I sometimes think I go too nit-picky about Doctor Who.)
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
At the start of the episode we see the picture of the father and two brothers, with the edge ripped off:
At the end we see the whole picture, with all three brothers:
The idea is that it's not that the events of the episode never happened, but that they all sort of folded in on each other, so at the end everyone's characters are slightly different, even if The Doctor might be the only one who knows why: The brothers respect each other more than they did (hence the different photo) and Clara trusts The Doctor completely.
At the end we see the whole picture, with all three brothers:
The idea is that it's not that the events of the episode never happened, but that they all sort of folded in on each other, so at the end everyone's characters are slightly different, even if The Doctor might be the only one who knows why: The brothers respect each other more than they did (hence the different photo) and Clara trusts The Doctor completely.
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
I really quite liked the first half of the episode, with Jenny, Vastra and Strax exploring the mystery. Once The Doctor gave his (slightly too long?) recap of everything it started to get a bit flimsy and rushed - but overall not bad.
Not sure what to make about the kids joining the TARDIS, but if anyone can write a good episode where that happens it's Neil Gaiman.
Not sure what to make about the kids joining the TARDIS, but if anyone can write a good episode where that happens it's Neil Gaiman.
whisky
Boobie inspector
As usual I thought the opposite, the first half was very average, if not boring, and the identity of the monster was never going to be a surprise.
Matt's zombie walk was embarrassing to watch.
The scratched film recap started to make the episode entertaining for me, and I actually laughed out loud at the tomtom joke, I still find the Jenny, Vastra and Strax team overused, and more so with every outing, and the comedy fainting guy was overdone, but overall the episode was above average for me.
Not sure the kids will really be joining them, unless they were in the trailer for next weeks and I just didn't see them.
Matt's zombie walk was embarrassing to watch.
The scratched film recap started to make the episode entertaining for me, and I actually laughed out loud at the tomtom joke, I still find the Jenny, Vastra and Strax team overused, and more so with every outing, and the comedy fainting guy was overdone, but overall the episode was above average for me.
Not sure the kids will really be joining them, unless they were in the trailer for next weeks and I just didn't see them.
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
They were.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
It was okay. Nothing too bad, fairly fun, and I laughed at the Doctor and Clara trying to do the accents (but not the comedy fainting. Fuck comedy faniting.)
Diana Rigg was good and certainly made her character entertaining, but I wish she'd been playing a more serious villain rather than just "I'm evil in every way!" Jenny was good, but Vestra and Strax didn't do very much (although in Strax's case it's best to keep him limited.)
I searched for tumblr reactions and there was actual anger at the Doctor "sexually assaulting" Jenny.
And yeah, the end scene didn't really seem to make any sense? Why would Clara have had her photo taken on a SECRET RUSSIAN SUB and how did it get online? And how did the kids actually find the photos? Does their school have some super advanced facial recognition search system? If they had found the photos in Clara's scrapbook or something that would have been better. Also the kids didn't seem like very good actors so I hope they don't drag next weeks' down.
Diana Rigg was good and certainly made her character entertaining, but I wish she'd been playing a more serious villain rather than just "I'm evil in every way!" Jenny was good, but Vestra and Strax didn't do very much (although in Strax's case it's best to keep him limited.)
I searched for tumblr reactions and there was actual anger at the Doctor "sexually assaulting" Jenny.
And yeah, the end scene didn't really seem to make any sense? Why would Clara have had her photo taken on a SECRET RUSSIAN SUB and how did it get online? And how did the kids actually find the photos? Does their school have some super advanced facial recognition search system? If they had found the photos in Clara's scrapbook or something that would have been better. Also the kids didn't seem like very good actors so I hope they don't drag next weeks' down.
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
I liked the setting of this weeks (occasionally felt like a live action Bioshock Infinite 
) and the more Diana Rigg on tv the better. The actual plot seemed a bit slow at the beginning, with the Doctor not turning up for quite some time, and then at the end it felt incredibly rushed. But it was a fairly standard "crazy bad guy wants to kill humanity" type thing, so you could've switched off ten minutes from the end and guessed the rest anyway.
The alien crawling limply away at the end reminded me of that TOS Star Trek ep that ends in a similar way. Although in that case the alien puppets were made from pipe cleaners.
I'm not really a fan of Strax or those other characters. I like the idea of the Doctor having a little gang he can call on in emergencies, but they're just not very interesting. Next time a writer wants the Doctor to have another pair of hands I'd rather they brought back John Barrowman this lot. I know, harsh words, but I mean it.
Next week's looks pretty good! I quite like the Doc having some kids along with him. And very Borgish Cybermen implanty things.
) and the more Diana Rigg on tv the better. The actual plot seemed a bit slow at the beginning, with the Doctor not turning up for quite some time, and then at the end it felt incredibly rushed. But it was a fairly standard "crazy bad guy wants to kill humanity" type thing, so you could've switched off ten minutes from the end and guessed the rest anyway.The alien crawling limply away at the end reminded me of that TOS Star Trek ep that ends in a similar way. Although in that case the alien puppets were made from pipe cleaners.
I'm not really a fan of Strax or those other characters. I like the idea of the Doctor having a little gang he can call on in emergencies, but they're just not very interesting. Next time a writer wants the Doctor to have another pair of hands I'd rather they brought back John Barrowman this lot. I know, harsh words, but I mean it.
Next week's looks pretty good! I quite like the Doc having some kids along with him. And very Borgish Cybermen implanty things.