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Doctor Who Series 7: There Will Be Daleks

For one of the greatest writers of his generation, there was quite a lot that made no sense.

Why did the cybermen need the kids, and the amusment park fella for spare parts, when they had a million fully functional cyberman on standby?

Why did they have one that could move like the flash, and the rest go stomp stomp?

Why would they need so many cybermen to work out a chess move?

When a game starts there are millions of potential moves, but by the stage of the end game, the Doctor had already lost most of his peices, thus drastically decreasing the number of possible moves.

Why on a planet 1000s of years in the future do people wear fugly glasses?

Why does Warrick dress like a WW2 soldier?

Why does a girl who wanted to travel in time and space get so bored so quickly when given teh opertunity to do just that?

And if the cybermen upgrade to any attack now, then presumably they are invulnerable to planets exploding (yeah, I said explode, despite them saying the planet would implode, it clearly didnt)
 
As would I, I think its why it is so disappointing, if it was Chibnal or Maffat we might expect to be disappointed, but not Gaiman.

Was he rushed?

Did Moffat ask him to knock an episode up in an hour?

The whole thing could have been better with three modifications.

1 One cyberman, one alone, the dalek in "Dalek" was awesome because it was unstopable, calculating, cold, the same with the lone Ice Warrior, shove in a million and you know they will be defeated.

2 Evil Doctor, great idea, ruined by the stupid tooing and throwing back to the good Doctor, and episode where the Doctor was the villian who had to be stopped by his companion would have been great.

3 no kids.
 
It's all been said: The children were pointless and annoying. Evil doctor, yes please more of. However the upgrades; cybermites instead of cybermats, able to take more than just humans and losing the ridiculous C from the chest all good. Warwick, good. Could've been better but 7.2 has been a bit of a dog's breakfast. I don't like Clara, probably because of that.
 
I thought it was kinda fun, but agree with everything. Kids were annoying, a bit nonsensical on the plot, but I liked seeing Warrick and I would have said yes to him.
 
Having the girl be a really snotty brat was annoying. I enjoyed the episode mostly, though.
 
Also they talked about going to the "comical" castle (I can't remember the name I'm sure it was funny) and when they got there it just looked like a normal castle. It should have been comcial, damn it.
 
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Having the girl be a really snotty brat was annoying. I enjoyed the episode mostly, though.
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That was annoying. She's on another planet at a scary abandoned amusement park and she just rolls her eyes in boredom and disgust. Not a normal reaction. And her constant "I hate you" Gah.

This is the first season I'm not enjoying since I started watching during Eccleston's time as Who. I don't know if I'm tired of Matt Smith or if Jenna Louise Coleman's perky and "aren't I adorable?" attitude is on my last nerve. I actually miss Amy and Rory...
 
Its almost as if Moffat is trying to make the show as bad as possible so they take it off him so he can concentrate on sherlock.
 
How come we don't get to see Sherlock here? Or does it air and I just fucking miss it all the time. I FEEL DEPRIVED
 
Gathered these titbits from a few sources, potentially spoilers for next weeks finally.

Starts off with Clara trial and tribbleations style superimposed on action from the first seven doctors, including a drive by from Bessie, then it gets into the story properly, and for now what we saw remains a mystery.

The great intelgence kidnaps those closest to the doctor, and being typical Moffat, these are just Strax, Jenny, Vastra and River Song.

This forces the Doctor to go to Tenszanor, where his grave is, his grave being the Tardis.

The tardis door can only be opened by someone saying the Doctors name, which River is tricked into saying.

Inside the tardis grave are strands of light, each one representing a past time and space travel, somewhere the Doctor has been and defeated some enemy.

The GI goes into the strands and starts killing the Doctor backwards in time, so he can die over and over, then Clara follows him, and starts saving the Doctor, putting everything right, and in turn interacting with the previous Doctors again T&T style.

At the end the Doctor is saved, and as she returns she brings the Doctor news, that he has a forgotten regeneration, and John Hurt is the real nine.

Which of course sets up the 50th anniversary special.
 
Oh man I was so prepared to hate that.

But I really, really didn't.

I am so glad it was more about "The Name of The Doctor" as a concept (and slightly as a Macguffin) rather than his actual literal name being something special. Otherwise we'd've had a scene where he says his name in a big way and whatever it was would've been disappointing. This got around that really well.

And it was about The Doctor's history and future (WITH A FUCKING VALEYARD REFERENCE AND ALL). We saw it, and it worked. I love the idea of The Doctor's tomb and having it be a a really bad place is a really good concept. Plus the giant TARDIS. Plus The Doctor's time stream, which was a really elegant way to work out the Clara thing.

Oh yeah and John Hurt as a missing regeneration. Yeah that's cool. That's really cool.
 
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My thoughts on the episode soon, in the meantime, this.

Edit, curse my metal body, not fast enough!
 
Yeah, I loved the episode, but if your plan is "jump in the time line and kill the Doctor millions of times", don't leave a bunch of his friends in the room who might be tempted to jump in after you.

Good job Clara didn't disappear like Jenny or the Doc would have been fucked.
 
Yeah, it was a really good episode on its own but I don't know if it fits with all the other stuff...I mean it's weird that the words "silence will fall!" were never spoken in it after we spent about two seasons on that. And the blue head guy going on about Trenzlore being a place "where no living thing can refuse to answer" (not an actual quote) and all the other stuff he said. But it worked on an emotional level!
 
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